Phil,
I don't seem to have the line ending service on my Mavericks system.  Do you 
know where I can get it?

Chris

On May 20, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote:

> I did a little checking and found that you can enable certain text services 
> that will convert line endings to and from Mac/Unix/Windows among other 
> interesting things. I enabled the line ending services and tried them out on 
> a text file created in windows. Everywhere there was a blank line in the 
> file, VO would say "return, new line". I selected the entire file and used 
> the Macintosh lines ending service and it changed the blank lines from saying 
> "return, new line" to only saying "return".
> Again, this applies to blank lines between paragraphs. Where there is no 
> blank line between paragraphs, there is no line ending words like return or 
> new line spoken.
> 
> 
> And, this only applies when reading the file manually by line or paragraph. 
> "return, new line"  is not spoken  when reading the entire document with the 
> VO-A command.
> 
> services are enabled in system preferences under the "shortcuts" tab. Select  
> "services" in the category, table, and "text" in the services table. Then 
> check the checkbox for the services you want to appear in the services menu 
> in your various text processing apps like pages or text edit.
> 
> 
> On May 20, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Tristan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I believe I have discovered my problem, though I am unsure of a quick fix 
>> (besides some alterations via terminal).  Windows and Mac OS X use very 
>> different linefeeds at the end. Windows uses a carriage return, whilst Mac 
>> simply uses a linefeed character. These files were most likely created on a 
>> Windows computer, thus they are encoded for viewing on a Windows operating 
>> system.
>> Running some commands via terminal to convert them from dos to unix format 
>> was successful, and the problem with VO saying 'new line' and 'return' seems 
>> to have disappeared.
>> Running this on every one of these files could be very time consuming and 
>> irritating at the very least, however. Does anyone have experience with 
>> converting the linebreaks on these sorts of files to OS X format?
>>  
>>  
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maria and Joe Chapman
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:37 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Reading Documents
>>  
>> HI.
>>  
>> I believe text  express will keep your place.
>>  
>> I hope this helps 
>> Cheers 
>> Maria  
>>  
>> Produced on macbook [email protected]
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> On 20 May 2014, at 3:00 am, Tristan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I've been told this is possible, but haven't exactly determined how. I have 
>> several articles, documents and books in simple document formats (.txt, rtf, 
>> etc). Whenever I read these in TextEdit/Pages, every time a grammatical or 
>> spelling error is discovered, VO interrupts the reading flow to make that 
>> known. Also, every time a new paragraph begins, or there are blank lines, it 
>> says "return" or "new line". This is extremely ideal for editing or word 
>> processing, but not for reading something without annoying and unnecessary 
>> interruptions.
>>  
>> Is  there an app that would be optimal for reading long texts, such as 
>> textbooks or articles? It seems iBooks is still largely inaccessible even 
>> with the 10.9.3 update. Alternatively, can I turn these announcements off in 
>> the Voice Over Utility?
>>  
>> Thanks in advance
>>  
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