There's not, if you have Cara's address you might want to shoot her an
email off list or nudge her here, as she's the admin.
On 7/5/2014 5:23 PM, Tristan wrote:
Hi,
I subscribed to MV-Dev about a month ago, and my request was either
not seen or not approved. Just tried again; is there some sort of
criteria that I must meet?
On 7/5/14, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
Again, no one can even use Swift right now; you'll need Xcode 6, or at least
a beta of it. Plus, even as Swift takes over, plenty of the tutorials you
find will continue to be in Objective-C. Finally, most Cocoa and Cocoa Touch
headers will be in Objective-C for quite a while, I imagine, so if you ever
look at those to figure out how to do something or what a certain function
expects, you'll at least need to know how to read the language in a basic
way. As I said, I agree that Swift is worth learning and should be a
priority, but it's hard to learn a language your computer can't yet
recognize. This fall, once Yosemite comes out, that will be different, but
for now Objective-C is, to my knowledge, the only language non-beta Macs can
run. I'm not even mentioning C or C++.
On Jul 5, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
Why just objective c? Why not start out with Swift?
Devin Prater
[email protected]
On Jul 5, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
Free is indeed best. :) I recommend simply googling "learn objective-c"
to start with, and reading the tutorials you find. Some will make more
sense than others, but which ones depend on your background, learning
style, and so forth. For using Xcode, www.applevis.com has a few guides
and forums you will probably find useful. I also put a podcast up there
that goes through a "hello world" app which should help to explain things
after you get through the basic layout stuff. Finally, I highly recommend
you join the sister list to this one, dedicated to blind programmers on
the Mac:
[email protected]
On Jul 5, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Dawn Benbow <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've been a lurker on this list for a while now. I've become interested
in learning how to program, specifically to build apps for iOS, to start
with at least. But, I'm wondering where is a good place to start
learning, and where are there good educational resources for learning
that don't cost a lot of money. Free is best if possible! :)
Thanks,
Dawn
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