Oh indeed?
And to think the president in the before referenced blog demonstrates the
sweetness of this idea by noting that the NFB gave awards to Apple.
Failed to mention that Apple did not show.
This is seeming more good natured by the moment.
Still my greater point is this. No apple user on this list or anywhere
requires the nfb to speak for them. Most especially not if the NFb plans
to project its limited plug & play concept of blindness into development.
Train those who speak their party line to be developers and ask Apple to
include their editions in the ap store.
Leave the objective respect of the individual end user alone.
Kare
<who needs t stop before a mod puts her in the corner lol.>
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014, David Chittenden wrote:
Yes, and the fact is, all companies think in terms of what is good for the
business. The message NFB is sending with this current bludgeoning resolution
attack is, when a company does more than any other company toward
accessibility, we are going to single you out and attack you. Will this
actually encourage any company to increase accessibility, or will it send the
message that, if you focus more on accessibility, you will get singled out and
attacked. Yes, this is a very good and productive way to encourage
accessibility, not!
So, I have been asking myself, why would NFB do something like this? I am
reminded how in-sensed NFB was when Apple refused to send an executive to the
NFB National Convention a few years ago to receive the award NFB gave Apple
then. In fact, Apple has never sent an official representative to an NFB
National Convention. Now, NFB's actions seem more understandable.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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On 13 Jul 2014, at 12:40, Pamela Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
I personally am not in favor of this resolution; not because I don't want
accessibility. Apple took the lead in making its products accessible without
government or organizational intervention. Microsoft, on the other hand,
allowed third-party vendors to do its work within accessibility. Google, though
it has come along way, still does not want to adhere to its own standards
unless it is pressed.
If there was a resolution to be had, it should've been a blanket resolution for
all companies dealing with accessibility. Picking on Apple, is as if we as a
blind community are slapping it in the face given that it has continued its
efforts to remain accessible. I understand the need for utilitarian apps such
as maps, transit maps, notes, lists, etc. to remain accessible as they are a
necessary function in normal life. However, just to use as an example I don't
necessarily need Angry Birds to be accessible for my benefit nor do I need it
to be threatened to be kicked from the app store due to inaccessibility for the
sake of millions of people who enjoy it.
As we continue to strive for accessibility in all areas, we need not be a bully
to the company that went out of its way to make its products accessible from
the beginning.
We also do not need to be put into a societal box allowing electronics
manufacturers, appliance manufacturers, and the general public to believe that
all we are capable of is operating an iPhone. We are on the cusp of choice. We
have fought for choice for a long time. This type of a resolution makes us
look militant and ungrateful. What is fair for one company is fair for all.
Pam Francis
On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Terje Strømberg <[email protected]> wrote:
The NFB Resolution is very important for all blind and low vision all over the
world. We all want accessible digital future.
A link to a comment from the president in NFB:
https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/comments-apple-and-nfb-resolution-2014-12
Take care
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