Karen, You said this very well. I agree, but still I must wonder if this is quite on topic.
Kristeen On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Littlefield, Tyler <[email protected]> wrote: > Karen: > I fully agree. It really does feel like we're slapping Apple in the face, > forcing them to conform. I really really hope this doesn't work, because it's > going to create a huge mess and totally redefine apps. Not everything is > accessible but that really is fine with me; usually I can find an app that > is. It's what happens when you use anything, really. My thoughts are mainly > money based: how much money will NFB get for consulting for something like > this, and secondly how is this trash going to redefine apps on the iPhone? > It's not going to be all that hard for NFB to use their power to force things > into IOS/apps that don't need to be there, force things out, etc. > > On 7/12/2014 9:25 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> Let me see if I understand this. >> Apple who has built in innovation on its own must discuss with the nfb how >> to now limit that innovation to fit the nfb's one size fits all definition >> of blindness? as in all blind people are interchangeable, and the nfb is >> the only source to tell you how to find a plug and play blind person by >> which you measure what works for them...all 400 plus million of them? >> I wonder how much money they plan on extorting for this dialog? >> Not only should it be a blanket resolution, BTW android phones are the most >> popular in use now according to annual surveys, but this dialog should >> involve many organizations, and a group of apple customers who are not >> members of a consumer organization whatsoever. >> The very suggestion that a single body is in a position to speak for every >> child born of women who happens to have the label blind attached to them is >> a stereotypes that really needs to end. otherwise the individuality that is >> the rich experience of redefining blindness is not going to exist for the >> millions who need not buy the nfb line to live freely and inclusively. >> Why does the nfb not spend its energy training software developers who fit >> their one size fits all blindness box? >> Many companies besides Apple would get the benefits that way. >> >> just my take, >> Karen >> >> On Sat, 12 Jul 2014, Pamela Francis wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I personally am not in favor of this resolution; not because I don't want >>> accessibility. Apple took the lead in making its products accessible >>> without government or organizational intervention. Microsoft, on the other >>> hand, allowed third-party vendors to do its work within accessibility. >>> Google, though it has come along way, still does not want to adhere to its >>> own standards unless it is pressed. >>> If there was a resolution to be had, it should've been a blanket resolution >>> for all companies dealing with accessibility. Picking on Apple, is as if we >>> as a blind community are slapping it in the face given that it has >>> continued its efforts to remain accessible. I understand the need for >>> utilitarian apps such as maps, transit maps, notes, lists, etc. to remain >>> accessible as they are a necessary function in normal life. However, just >>> to use as an example I don't necessarily need Angry Birds to be accessible >>> for my benefit nor do I need it to be threatened to be kicked from the app >>> store due to inaccessibility for the sake of millions of people who enjoy >>> it. >>> As we continue to strive for accessibility in all areas, we need not be a >>> bully to the company that went out of its way to make its products >>> accessible from the beginning. >>> We also do not need to be put into a societal box allowing electronics >>> manufacturers, appliance manufacturers, and the general public to believe >>> that all we are capable of is operating an iPhone. We are on the cusp of >>> choice. We have fought for choice for a long time. This type of a >>> resolution makes us look militant and ungrateful. What is fair for one >>> company is fair for all. >>> Pam Francis >>> >>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Terje Strømberg <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The NFB Resolution is very important for all blind and low vision all over >>> the world. We all want accessible digital future. >>> >>> A link to a comment from the president in NFB: >>> https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/comments-apple-and-nfb-resolution-2014-12 >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Take care, > Ty > http://tds-solutions.net > He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that > dares not reason is a slave. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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