Just to add another perspective to this discussion, I sort of like direct touch 
typing.  And I think it'll be very fast once one gets used to it, especially in 
combination with the predictive typing.  Just my $.02, but I'm going to use it 
for a while and see how it goes.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Matt Dierckens <[email protected]> wrote:

> From what I've been told, the Flexy issues are caused because of a bug with 
> direct touch.
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> On Sep 17, 2014, at 21:17, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like the bug in Fleksy makes using it absolutely pointless isn't the 
>> whole idea of having it work in all apps so you do not have to toggle 
>> between apps to use it? Why in the world would I want to toggle VoiceOver on 
>> and off to use it. I usually upgrade right away but hearing about the 
>> dialing phone numbers, scrolling issues and clicking on things not working 
>> it really sounds quite awful and that Apple did for lack of a better phrase 
>> a piss poor job of VoiceOver in IOS 8, and please don't give me the we 
>> should expect bugs in a first release as I don't think Apple would release a 
>> version of IOS where sighted people couldn't dial phone numbers or properly 
>> scroll. Major disappointment.
>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Buddy Brannan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh. Well. That kind of sucks. 
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>>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to
>>>> work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another
>>>> keyboard or read anything while you type.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd lost 
>>>>> my
>>>>> mind.
>>>>> Jenine Stanley
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone
>>>>>> else's explanation) to fully understand it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable
>>>>>> vision, it might be great.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a
>>>>>> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes
>>>>>> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your 
>>>>>> finger
>>>>>> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch
>>>>>> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really
>>>>>> wanted.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For my part, touch typing still works great.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy.
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi those that know
>>>>>>> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>> 
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