Just a comment regarding bugs,
After running IOS 8 for a few hours now, I haven't encountered any bugs not 
even the phone dialling bug that people seem to be all up in arms about.

On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just to add another perspective to this discussion, I sort of like direct 
> touch typing.  And I think it'll be very fast once one gets used to it, 
> especially in combination with the predictive typing.  Just my $.02, but I'm 
> going to use it for a while and see how it goes.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Sep 17, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Matt Dierckens <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> From what I've been told, the Flexy issues are caused because of a bug with 
>> direct touch.
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>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 21:17, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sounds like the bug in Fleksy makes using it absolutely pointless isn't the 
>>> whole idea of having it work in all apps so you do not have to toggle 
>>> between apps to use it? Why in the world would I want to toggle VoiceOver 
>>> on and off to use it. I usually upgrade right away but hearing about the 
>>> dialing phone numbers, scrolling issues and clicking on things not working 
>>> it really sounds quite awful and that Apple did for lack of a better phrase 
>>> a piss poor job of VoiceOver in IOS 8, and please don't give me the we 
>>> should expect bugs in a first release as I don't think Apple would release 
>>> a version of IOS where sighted people couldn't dial phone numbers or 
>>> properly scroll. Major disappointment.
>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Buddy Brannan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oh. Well. That kind of sucks. 
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You have to enable speech in Fleksy and turn off VO for Fleksy to
>>>>> work. It's awkward because it leaves you no way to switch to another
>>>>> keyboard or read anything while you type.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/17/14, Jenine Stanley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Buddy, so glad you're having trouble also with Fleksy. I thought I'd 
>>>>>> lost my
>>>>>> mind.
>>>>>> Jenine Stanley
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Buddy Brannan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone
>>>>>>> else's explanation) to fully understand it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable
>>>>>>> vision, it might be great.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap", I mean a
>>>>>>> real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes
>>>>>>> contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your 
>>>>>>> finger
>>>>>>> on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch
>>>>>>> typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really
>>>>>>> wanted.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For my part, touch typing still works great.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi those that know
>>>>>>>> What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>>> 
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