As another poster said, you can go into the VoiceOver Utility and turn them off, though the changes you make with the F key shortcuts should stick. I think Apple made certain visuals display by default so sighted people could help new users more easily, and since the blind user would never know the panel was there, it wouldn't affect them and would only help the sighted helper. This might need to be revisited nowadays, and a dialog similar to NVDA's prompting for some initial setup choices when you first run VoiceOver, would be really nice to have. > On Feb 6, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi there > Thanks Alex. I am archiving this information so that I can remember when it > comes up again. However, I think it should a default not to show these things > because most of us don't need it. I could care less if my husband what VO is > saying. > > Gigi > >> On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I think what he's talking about are the different visual panels VoiceOver >> offers. While great for trainers or teachers, they get in the way for many >> people, as you're discovered. Fortunately, there's a quick way to kill them: >> vo-cmd with certain function keys. F9 will show or hide the braille panel, >> which shows visually what your display says; f10 will show or hide the >> caption panel, which shows what VoiceOver is saying; f11 will show or hide >> *all* visual panels. >>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi again Tim >>> This worked ok, except for a couple of things. First, I lost speech but >>> fortunately VO ran the braille display. At one point, I got it back, but >>> then VO kept crashing. This got better when we turned VO off on the Apple >>> TV. However, my husband kept fussing about the VO whatever being in the way >>> of the text on the screen. Is there a VoiceOver setting somewhere that >>> would let me hide the display thing that shows VoiceOver being open. It >>> doesn’t bother me, but I am getting a little tired of my husband asking >>> about this every time I get him to look at my screen, which fortunately >>> isn’t too often. The option command h for hide others doesn’t get rid of >>> this thing that’s only good for sighted people. Since VO is on all the time >>> for me, I don’t need something on the screen telling me it’s active. Help! >>> >>> Gigi >>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Tim >>>> Thanks for the information. It is just like a thought. That is the most >>>> ideal way that we can do this activity, so that I can run the computer and >>>> my husband can look at the screen easily for himself. >>>> Gigi >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> As long as the Apple TV is on and part of the same network, you can go up >>>>> to the Displays Extras menu and select your Apple TV to send your display >>>>> to. If the Apple TV is off, this menu item will not be visible. >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 06:29, Eugenia Firth <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi guys >>>>> I have an Apple TV, and I have Turbo Tax that I would like to show to my >>>>> sighted husband before he agrees to our joint return. He is a Windows >>>>> user and has limited experience running the Mac; I don’t want him to mess >>>>> up what I’ve done or get frustrated with running a system he is not >>>>> familiar with since the purpose is reviewing. So that he can see the >>>>> screen on our TV, do I go to air drop to make that happen? 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