Hi there I did go into the voiceover utility and make the changes that Tim suggested. However, I will keep in mind the shortcuts to, because in some situations might need them. Anyway, I showed him the screen, and he likes the way it looks now. Gigi
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > > As another poster said, you can go into the VoiceOver Utility and turn them > off, though the changes you make with the F key shortcuts should stick. I > think Apple made certain visuals display by default so sighted people could > help new users more easily, and since the blind user would never know the > panel was there, it wouldn't affect them and would only help the sighted > helper. This might need to be revisited nowadays, and a dialog similar to > NVDA's prompting for some initial setup choices when you first run VoiceOver, > would be really nice to have. >> On Feb 6, 2015, at 7:54 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi there >> Thanks Alex. I am archiving this information so that I can remember when it >> comes up again. However, I think it should a default not to show these >> things because most of us don't need it. I could care less if my husband >> what VO is saying. >> >> Gigi >> >>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I think what he's talking about are the different visual panels VoiceOver >>> offers. While great for trainers or teachers, they get in the way for many >>> people, as you're discovered. Fortunately, there's a quick way to kill >>> them: vo-cmd with certain function keys. F9 will show or hide the braille >>> panel, which shows visually what your display says; f10 will show or hide >>> the caption panel, which shows what VoiceOver is saying; f11 will show or >>> hide *all* visual panels. >>>> On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi again Tim >>>> This worked ok, except for a couple of things. First, I lost speech but >>>> fortunately VO ran the braille display. At one point, I got it back, but >>>> then VO kept crashing. This got better when we turned VO off on the Apple >>>> TV. However, my husband kept fussing about the VO whatever being in the >>>> way of the text on the screen. Is there a VoiceOver setting somewhere that >>>> would let me hide the display thing that shows VoiceOver being open. It >>>> doesn’t bother me, but I am getting a little tired of my husband asking >>>> about this every time I get him to look at my screen, which fortunately >>>> isn’t too often. The option command h for hide others doesn’t get rid of >>>> this thing that’s only good for sighted people. Since VO is on all the >>>> time for me, I don’t need something on the screen telling me it’s active. >>>> Help! >>>> >>>> Gigi >>>> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tim >>>>> Thanks for the information. It is just like a thought. That is the most >>>>> ideal way that we can do this activity, so that I can run the computer >>>>> and my husband can look at the screen easily for himself. >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> As long as the Apple TV is on and part of the same network, you can go >>>>>> up to the Displays Extras menu and select your Apple TV to send your >>>>>> display to. If the Apple TV is off, this menu item will not be visible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Later... >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 06:29, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>> I have an Apple TV, and I have Turbo Tax that I would like to show to my >>>>>> sighted husband before he agrees to our joint return. He is a Windows >>>>>> user and has limited experience running the Mac; I don’t want him to >>>>>> mess up what I’ve done or get frustrated with running a system he is not >>>>>> familiar with since the purpose is reviewing. So that he can see the >>>>>> screen on our TV, do I go to air drop to make that happen? If I turn on >>>>>> the Apple TV does my Mac find it and then show the text on the screen? >>>>>> >>>>>> Gigi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > [email protected] > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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