The shit can only suspect the shit.

Em 29/03/2015 00:35, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:
OK.  that's actually kind of what I suspected, but figured that I'd ask.

Thank you for your help.

Chris.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "The Believer" <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List


   Need to go online at the Macvisionaries page gf Googlegroups.

From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 3/28/2015 5:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Oh, really? Gotcha. I'm going by the little I know from other listservs.

That probably explains why in the past all my owner request e-mails have
bounced with other google Groups.

So, then, please can you provide us with the exact procedure to contact
the owner of a Google Group such as this one?

Chris.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "The Believer"
<ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List


    By the way, there is no email address for a googlegroups owner, one
must use a web form.

 From The Believer. . .
    By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 3/28/2015 4:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
whoops?  This actually went to the whole list.

Try the address I suggested.

macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com

I'm still looking for chris's address.  No luck yet though. I'm sorry.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith"
<daj.griff...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19 PM
Subject: Inappropriate Responsses on List


Hello  thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate

behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be
removed from the list.
Some examples are below.
On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote:

yes, i know.
put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your   mouth, and call the
moderators.
fuck you, piece of shit ...

Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu:
Does anybody know how to contact moderators  on this list?

David Griffith




On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote:

        fuck you bitch.
your pussy stinks.

Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu:
I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for
four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being
completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful.
thank you,
Donna

Begin forwarded message:

*Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT
*From: *mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com
<mailto:mario....@gmail.com>>
*To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8*
*Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>



fuck you, piece  of shit ...
who you think you are ...
You must be very important sucker!
if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ...
I do not spoke to you sucker ...
your head is full of shit ...
you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ...
Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu:
I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds
like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground.
We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling
personal insults at each other.
Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this
list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will
be off.

David Griffith

On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote:


man, why  you are so stupid?
you work for apple?
apple pay all your debts at the end of the month?
apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over?
yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your
iPhone ...
shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ...

Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:
All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the
beginning have pretty much been fixed.
I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first
generation, and all is very very smoothe.  I really don't have
any issues any longer.  OK, in Safari, on huge web pages,
sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is
becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see
this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally
speaking has over 12 thousand links on it.
Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're
just gonna have to trust me with this.
Chris.
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   ----- Original Message -----
   *From:* Jon Solitro <mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com>
   *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
   <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
   *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM
   *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

   The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the
functionality as
   I haven't been able to download it yet.

   I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is
worth
   it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over
tends to
   run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade?

   Sent from my iPad

   On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, "george b" <gbma...@gmail.com
   <mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:

   What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am
   interested in this please.

   thanks

   *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
   [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon
Solitro
   *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54
   *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
   *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

   I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still
running
   iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs
8 to
   install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation?


On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux
   wrote:

       Hi all,

I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when
       getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started
looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out
       for you what you should like and do”. Point in case,
that U2
       debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I
was
       going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2
tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want
       some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I
shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some
       great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans
       aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that
when I
go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my
       future.

Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for
       those of you who want to reply by being defensive for
apple,
       just remember a few basic things:

       1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving
       apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the
cut
       on your music production or app developement with their
       platform. They serve you. Not the other way around.

       2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that
       collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few
       individuals decide on the direction of that experience.
Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a
       good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous
marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of
       human interface, a software division, coming from someone
who
used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust
       in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers
       presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have
       enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash
graphical
       transition animation style crap instead of truly clean,
       efficient and snappy interfaces.

       3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea
what.
       Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can
really be
       part of the process of creating real interfaces for
everyone.
It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is
       standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken
and
       updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s
       broken, it should be free, such as what google offers.
Buying
       a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences
and
       moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the
window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends,
       mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree
with me
       that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s
       image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker
that
       can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers
       behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being
       probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us
this
       weird awkward show each year now with a barely straight
talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend
       chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul?
Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the style
       apple is portraying. It’s becoming a disney world
presentation with oooohs and aaahs when the tech behind is
       quite literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this
       qualification should by now, from all the sci fi, the
       research and the graduations of bright people, should
lead us
       much farther in terms of actual interaction with a
computer,
       and let’s not forget screen readers.

       Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall

       Yuma Antoine Decaux

       "Light has no value without darkness"

       Mob: +612102277190

       Skype: Shainobi1

       twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7

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