George,
There comes a time when you need to cut your losses. You cannot get thru to some people so just ignore them, or better yet, use your email client's filters and save what's left of your fingers.

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   [email protected]
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 6/14/2015 7:31 AM, george b wrote:
I have 2 sore fingers from hitting the beleate key for this nonsense,
and working on my 3^rd finger.

Where is the moderators?  You notice there is no link to write them off
list at the bottom of these emails

*From:*[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Devin Prater
*Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2015 06:27
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: el capitan

I agree. If I were still in school and had emails going to my school
email address, I’d be in plenty of trouble with the principal right
about now. Keep that in mind guys. Sure most of us, myself included, are
adults and all, but my goodness its not just a few who are on this list,
and its not just whoever you direct your palace at that hears or reads
your words.

    On Jun 14, 2015, at 8:20 AM, [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

    There is something to be said for having a civil tongue.

    Sent from my iPhone


    On Jun 14, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Let's get a few things straight.

        I really  don't give a rat's ass what you think of me, or if you
        like me or not.  I didn't break NDA.  There is absolutely
        nothing and I repeat nothing! wrong with saying that people will
        be impressed with an OS.  There is nothing wrong with me stating
        that I downloaded I O S 9.  there is nothing wrong with me
        saying that there are some bugs here and there, as that's only
        to be expected.  Further, there was nothing I see wrong with
        asking how to report a bug on the bug reporter, if you can't
        figure it out.  I violated nothing in Apple's terms, which I
        highly doubt you even read, all things considered, by doing so.
        I leaked no information by asking such.  Asking how to navigate
        a web site isn't against their policy.  Besides, even if it
        were, it's not like you could do anything with the info I gave.
        If you're not a developer, you couldn't even get to that page to
        start with, as your Apple ID wouldn't have developer access to
        start with.

        If you really don't care, then why  in god's living hell! did
        you even write this on list?  Or, off... for that mind.  If you
        don't care, then shove my mails where the sun don't shine, and
        grow the pissy fuck up!  I'm not out to get anyone!  Your
        comment about calling Apple 911 is absolutely childish!  As for
        a CSV, you don't need to know exactly how I'd go about reporting
        things more than I'd call the toll free number and talk to
        them.  If they wanted some sort of a CSV, then I'd provide that,
        but that would be up to them, not me.  All I can do is be the
        honest person and report it if I see something.

        I'm done with this thread, and any further e-mails I see from
        you regarding this subject will immediately be ignored, so
        honestly, you're wasting your time by thinking I will answer
        your messages any further.

        Chris.

            ----- Original Message -----

            *From:*Yuma Decaux <mailto:[email protected]>

            *To:*[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>

            *Sent:*Sunday, June 14, 2015 2:28 AM

            *Subject:*Re: el capitan

            Christopher,

            I am frankly getting a bit tired of your constant tirades
            and your non sequitur and daily 30 or so messages that speak
            of everything but actual factual. You call yourself a
            developer and nagged that you got a developer account 4 days
            ago and how Apple mistreated you. You call others out for
            violating the NDA and yourself are constantly talking about
            the IOS and the mac OS betas. Now you’re going out fascistic
            and saying that you will report about other people
            downloading torrents. You’re mixing everything up and quite
            honestly, this is shitkicking for nothing. What are you
            going to do sincerely? You got some kind of NSA pass to
            snoop on other people’s activities and telling us you have
            that power when you can’t find a button on an interface to
            send a bug report? You’re going to call 911-apple and
            provide them an .csv file of everyone who mentioned certain
            keywords on this mailing list, and why not put some who
            question your ethics, just cuz they pissed you off? What’s
            your project here, what’s your goal? Do I really care? No, I
            actually care more about talking tech, not tech support.
            Future observations, not recycled transmission. and not
            receiving this kind of stuff.

                On 14/06/2015, at 3:06 PM, gs <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Christopher-Mark -

                Have you caught anybody yet and reported them? If I
                received information that someone had downloaded a
                torrent of the beta version of the operating system and
                subsequently installed it, how would I go about
                reporting it? Any help you can give me is truly
                appreciated as I think I know someone who has violated
                the law.

                If you are not normally so prideful and strict, what has
                caused the vigilance with regard to Apple and your
                admirable dedication to such a rigorous ethical
                position? I'm only curious as I recently saw a
                discussion where you seemed to have some doubts related
                to your ability to report issues to Apple.

                Out of curiosity, I wonder if you could explain what you
                mean by your statement that Apple is one of the few
                things for which you will not bend your policy (I assume
                this is the proud and strict policy). Do you mean that
                it is acceptable to pirate software developed by
                companies other than Apple?

                  How did you develop this discriminatory viewpoint? It
                would be quite instructive to know the other things, the
                very few instances,

                where you will not "bend this policy."

                I hate to come across as a butt, but I'm frankly getting
                tired of wading through this garbage.

                On Jun 14, 2015, at 1:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                wrote:

                I dono, but the bottom line is that's illegal, and being
                I'm a dev, I'm legally obligated to reporting anyone who
                I catch doing this.  Normally, I'm not so prideful nor
                strict with things like this, however, Apple is one of
                the very few things I will *not!* bend this policy on
                under any circumstances!

                But yes, you probably would most likely void updates,
                however updates should be the least! of your worries.

                Chris.

                    ----- Original Message -----

                    *From:*Shawn Krasniuk <mailto:[email protected]>

                    *To:*[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>

                    *Sent:*Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:13 PM

                    *Subject:*Re: el capitan

                    Wouldn't downloading El Capitan through Torrent void
                    any software updates it may have in the future?

                    Shawn

                    Sent from my White MacBook

                        On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Shaf
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        No, but you can torrent the current beta from
                        your favorite site for free.

                        On 6/13/2015 9:59 PM, Krysti .Power wrote:

                            Does anyone know the release date for the
                            public beta

                            On Jun 8, 2015 8:32 PM,
                            <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                Hi Ricardo,

                                Thanks for confirming.

                                Looking forward to downloading.

                                Regards,

                                Sadam Ahmed

                                Sent from my iPhone

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                                On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:58 am, Ricardo
                                Walker <[email protected]
                                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                    Hello,

                                    They will be available in the public
                                    beta program in July.

                                    hth

                                        On Jun 8, 2015, at 6:49 PM,
                                        sadam ahmed
                                        <[email protected]
                                        <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                        wrote:

                                        Is iOS 9 and the next version of
                                        OS X available to download as
                                        part of the public beta program?

                                        Totally missed the stream.

                                        It was being streamed at some
                                        disgusting time like  3 AM in
                                        Australia.

                                        Sadam Ahmed

                                        Certificate IV in International
                                        Trade

                                        Vocational College of Business

                                        RMIT University

                                        LinkedIn:

                                        https://au.linkedin.com/pub/sadam-ahmed/

                                        
https://www.rmit.edu.au/about/our-education/academic-colleges/college-of-business/

                                        Sent using OS X Mail

                                            On 9 Jun 2015, at 8:43 am,
                                            Shawn Krasniuk
                                            <[email protected]
                                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                            I just found something out
                                            which maybe Apple might fix.
                                            I found out that Alex
                                            doesn't know how to say El
                                            Capitan properly lol. But
                                            getting back on topic, glad
                                            to know that I'll be able to
                                            use it on this thing. I
                                            missed WWDC today so did
                                            they say when the public
                                            will be able to beta test
                                            it? I know we get the beta
                                            for iOS 9in July but what
                                            about El Capitan?

                                            Shawn

                                            Sent from my White MacBook

                                                On Jun 8, 2015, at 4:48
                                                PM, gs
                                                <[email protected]
                                                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                wrote:

                                                The way I understood the
                                                situation is that iOS 9
                                                and El Capitan will work
                                                on all hardware
                                                supported by iOS 8 and
                                                Yosemite.

                                                On Jun 8, 2015, at 5:34
                                                PM, Shawn Krasniuk
                                                <[email protected]
                                                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                wrote:

                                                Wouldn't we beta testers
                                                get permission to
                                                download the El Capitan
                                                beta automatically?
                                                That's really not my
                                                main concern, my main
                                                concern is will I be
                                                able to run it on my mid
                                                2010 white MacBook? From
                                                what I heard on Twitter,
                                                it sounds like El
                                                Capitan has an advanced
                                                graphics engine or
                                                something like that. So
                                                is this the end of the
                                                line for me? Yosemite I
                                                mean.

                                                Shawn

                                                Sent from my White MacBook

                                                    On Jun 8, 2015, at
                                                    3:30 PM, Dionipher
                                                    Presas Herrera
                                                    <[email protected]
                                                    
<mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                    wrote:

                                                    ok, thanks, i'll
                                                    just have to wait to
                                                    request again. :)

                                                        On 08 Jun 2015,
                                                        at 10:28 pm,
                                                        Daniel
                                                        <[email protected]
                                                        
<mailto:[email protected]>>
                                                        wrote:

                                                        Probably so. Not
                                                        a hundred
                                                        percent sure.

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