May I kindly therefore suggest you leave the Apple ecosystem and go with a 
system like Android or Windows? When you buy an Apple product, you have to 
agree to "their" terms and be in their ecosystem. Don't like it? Don't agree to 
"their" terms, sell or return your Apple products and go for a more open 
platform. Chris, myself and others, even my friend of ten years this October, 
love Apple very much and will always stick by them. Sorry, I just can't 
understand the complaints of such a new service and the ecosystem altogether, 
especially if they themselves are on an Apple list. Just my £0.02 worth.


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> On 3 Jul 2015, at 22:28, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I suppose next, you're going to tell us how to get a copy of jaws totally for 
> free illegally!  Oh, come on!  It won't hurt to steel from the company! 
> Rauight!  Smirk?
> 
> Never mind my major! sarcasm.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaf" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Downloading from Apple Music library
> 
> 
> +1.
> I've tried cracking the DRM with stuff like Sound Taxi with no luck.
> They've apparently modified/strengthened the DRM protection which sucks,
> but somebody will come up with a workaround soon.
> 95% of my offline music collection is in FLAC. I cannot comprehend
> depending on streaming services to deliver my music. £10 per month is
> ridiculous - and I don't own a local, non-protected copy of any of my
> tracks while I am subscribed.
> Streaming music appeals to many because they think they're getting a
> good deal and don't have to torrent stuff all the time. Same thing with
> Netflix. If people are happy with that then it's really their choice,
> but why wouldn't you want to own a local copy of material? What if the
> internet dies, you're capped, you have a slow connection etc?
> 
> Finally, if I want to support an artist I'll make an effort to meet them
> and find alternative ways of donating to them, rather than purchasing
> from a company who takes a 30% cut of the funds. That is just wrong, and
> same goes for developers who make incredible apps and are forced to
> upload their apps in the app store. Apple don't deserve 30% of a cut.
> Not even payment gateways take that much.
> 
> 
> -Shaf
> On 7/3/2015 2:24 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>> DRM is evil.  Apple DRM is no exception, even if they’ve probably invented 
>> the least annoying kind of DRM there is, it’s still DRM and it still 
>> restricts you, all in the name of artificial market differentiation. Which 
>> is wrong, and evil.
>> 
>> As to Apple Music, I can see myself using it for discovery, but I’ll never 
>> allow my library to become tainted with the content.  It’s just too great a 
>> risk, for me and I think for others; if streaming becomes popular and 
>> therefore exclusive, music ownership will be lost forever.  Also, it’s 
>> fairly well known that streaming and rentals don’t help artists nearly as 
>> much as purchases, because there’s fierce competition on the margins and of 
>> course the listening tastes of listeners are not nearly as uniform as one 
>> might hope for the artists.
>> 
>> So, yes, very awesome, but let’s not forget what this is about: you’re 
>> paying for a closed service that will end when you stop paying for it. 
>> Online or offline, indistinguishable from the real thing or not, the service 
>> is either a way for you to stay locked in, or a way for you to purchase 
>> songs.  And it’s all thanks to DRM.  I’d have hoped for a thousand other 
>> different models that reconciled reality with market desires, perhaps 
>> involving lossless formats or automatic purchases of offline downloads, but 
>> there it is.  Please don’t fall into the trap of thinking you own anything 
>> you listen to on Apple Music.
>> 
> 
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