Great post. Cheers!
Visit my groups: The Chat Zone [email protected] The Tech Zone [email protected] Apple Music [email protected] > On 3 Jul 2015, at 23:44, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Actually, > > Let's be very clear here. I actually love the openness you get with Android. > In fact, in some ways, I like it a bit more than Apple. this however said, > the way I see it is like this: Apple is great for some things, and Android > is good for others. > > I actually think it's awesome how Apple did their whole thing with Apple > Music legistically. Think about it this way. > > You've heard about this new band who is hot on the radio. They're not > typically your style, but you're willing to have an open mind. So, what do > you do? You go find them in ITunes, and you stream the album totally for > free. You can do it unlimited amount a times, 1 time a day, or 10 thousand! > times a day. OK, fine, smart alak, you can't get 10000 plays in one day, but > you get my point. Point being, you're never! never never ever ever obligated > or require to buy it. If you like it enough, and feel it is worth it, and > you really want to support the artist, and you really want to buy the album, > then buy it! What if an album goes out of print before you have that chance? > Well, that's justa risk you take. Most things though don't go out of print > unless there's a really good reason for it, so that really isn't a completely > logical excuse. It kind of is, I'll admit, but not really. > > I see both sides of this. I know that people want to own their music, but > think of it this way. Technically, you don't own the music anyway. You > don't own the copy rights on it, do ya? So, technically speaking, I know > this is going on a major stretch, but is it really your's? No, it's not. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher hallsworth" > <[email protected]> > To: "macvisionaries" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: Downloading from Apple Music library > > > May I kindly therefore suggest you leave the Apple ecosystem and go with a > system like Android or Windows? When you buy an Apple product, you have to > agree to "their" terms and be in their ecosystem. Don't like it? Don't agree > to "their" terms, sell or return your Apple products and go for a more open > platform. Chris, myself and others, even my friend of ten years this October, > love Apple very much and will always stick by them. Sorry, I just can't > understand the complaints of such a new service and the ecosystem altogether, > especially if they themselves are on an Apple list. Just my £0.02 worth. > > > Visit my groups: > > The Chat Zone > [email protected] > The Tech Zone > [email protected] > Apple Music > [email protected] > > > > > >> On 3 Jul 2015, at 22:28, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I suppose next, you're going to tell us how to get a copy of jaws totally >> for free illegally! Oh, come on! It won't hurt to steel from the company! >> Rauight! Smirk? >> >> Never mind my major! sarcasm. >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaf" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:35 AM >> Subject: Re: Downloading from Apple Music library >> >> >> +1. >> I've tried cracking the DRM with stuff like Sound Taxi with no luck. >> They've apparently modified/strengthened the DRM protection which sucks, >> but somebody will come up with a workaround soon. >> 95% of my offline music collection is in FLAC. I cannot comprehend >> depending on streaming services to deliver my music. £10 per month is >> ridiculous - and I don't own a local, non-protected copy of any of my >> tracks while I am subscribed. >> Streaming music appeals to many because they think they're getting a >> good deal and don't have to torrent stuff all the time. Same thing with >> Netflix. If people are happy with that then it's really their choice, >> but why wouldn't you want to own a local copy of material? What if the >> internet dies, you're capped, you have a slow connection etc? >> >> Finally, if I want to support an artist I'll make an effort to meet them >> and find alternative ways of donating to them, rather than purchasing >> from a company who takes a 30% cut of the funds. That is just wrong, and >> same goes for developers who make incredible apps and are forced to >> upload their apps in the app store. Apple don't deserve 30% of a cut. >> Not even payment gateways take that much. >> >> >> -Shaf >> On 7/3/2015 2:24 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >>> DRM is evil. Apple DRM is no exception, even if they’ve probably invented >>> the least annoying kind of DRM there is, it’s still DRM and it still >>> restricts you, all in the name of artificial market differentiation. Which >>> is wrong, and evil. >>> >>> As to Apple Music, I can see myself using it for discovery, but I’ll never >>> allow my library to become tainted with the content. It’s just too great a >>> risk, for me and I think for others; if streaming becomes popular and >>> therefore exclusive, music ownership will be lost forever. Also, it’s >>> fairly well known that streaming and rentals don’t help artists nearly as >>> much as purchases, because there’s fierce competition on the margins and of >>> course the listening tastes of listeners are not nearly as uniform as one >>> might hope for the artists. >>> >>> So, yes, very awesome, but let’s not forget what this is about: you’re >>> paying for a closed service that will end when you stop paying for it. >>> Online or offline, indistinguishable from the real thing or not, the >>> service is either a way for you to stay locked in, or a way for you to >>> purchase songs. And it’s all thanks to DRM. I’d have hoped for a thousand >>> other different models that reconciled reality with market desires, perhaps >>> involving lossless formats or automatic purchases of offline downloads, but >>> there it is. Please don’t fall into the trap of thinking you own anything >>> you listen to on Apple Music. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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