Lol! Yeah, I do find I hold the phone with one hand if I'm in a moving vehicle. That's one situation where typing is kind of tough. Cheers, Donna On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> > Donna, now you watch that middle finger. :) > Yes I agree that it really comes down to what works for you. I > haven't tried all possible ways of doing things, but I can tell you > that while riding on the bus in particular and on the train at times, > having two hands on the device is almost a must, if for no other > reason than to keep your fingers from bouncing around on the > screen. :) > I think I have found myself using two hands and executing a split-tap, > but not sure I have all the terms correct. I've read the documentation > and just struck out and tapped around until I figured out most > stuff. :) What is amazing to me is that although all these gestures > and the like sound complicated on the surface, once you start using > them, it really is amazingly simple. > On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Hi Scott, >> >> Well, it's hard to explain. I basically use my index and middle >> fingers. Which one I use for which part of the job depends on >> where I >> am on the screen, i.e. if I need to select something on the far >> right, >> I'll select with the middle finger and tap with the index finger. >> Generally, though, I select with the index finger, and tap with the >> middle. >> >> Good luck. I do think with the iphone it's whatever works best. But >> personally, I find split-tapping faster. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> >>> Well Donna, okay, now your challenging me to do this with one hand. >>> Just curious, do you use a thumb and finger or do you use two >>> fingers. What I really want to do is hold the phone and operate it >>> all with the same hand. Now that would be truly something to >>> learn. :) >>> Maybe I'll just have to find a way or grow an extra thumb. :) >>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Lindsay, >>>> >>>> One thing I would add to Scott's post is that you need to remember >>>> that the interface for the iphone is just different. I know that >>>> sounds like I'm stating the obvious, but it's something that can be >>>> forgotten easily when you are first learning to use the iphone. >>>> What >>>> this means is that often you have to find ways to accomplish things >>>> that are different from what you're used to. If you stay open to >>>> that, I think you'll have a good experience with the iphone. >>>> >>>> One thing I would mention since you asked about making calls, is >>>> that >>>> the iphone's equivalent of Speed Dial is something called >>>> Favorites. >>>> I have my phone set so that a double-press of the home button >>>> automatically opens my favorites list. Then I can simply double- >>>> tap >>>> the name of the person I want to call. Once you get over the >>>> notion >>>> that you want to press a button to call people in your speed-dial >>>> list, it is really every bit as fast and easy. >>>> >>>> The last thing I will say is that I have no problem at all split >>>> tapping with one hand, I just find what I'm looking for with one >>>> finger, and then tap with another. Honestly, I think this phone is >>>> easier to use one handed than were several of my Windows Mobile >>>> phones >>>> (I've never used a Nokia, so can't speak to that). >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> Donna >>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay, >>>>> >>>>> First I am new to the iPhone, but been a Mac user for a number of >>>>> years. It is possible to learn the interface and how to >>>>> effectively >>>>> use the keyboard. Not all sighted people find the keyboard easy as >>>>> well, so we're not alone. You locate the letter by sliding your >>>>> finger to it and tapping with the other hand unless you can tap >>>>> with >>>>> another finger on the same hand. It is a little slower, but with >>>>> practice you can achieve a pretty good speed. In fact as you get >>>>> more >>>>> comfortable, you reach a point where you nearly put your finger on >>>>> the >>>>> letter your wanting; if that makes sense. I'm not familiar with >>>>> the >>>>> keyboard that is coming out, but any info you have would be >>>>> appreciated. Personally I don't know how a blind person could get >>>>> off >>>>> a train, navigate to where they are going, all while texting >>>>> anyway. >>>>> Maybe I'm just getting to old and can't do all that stuff. >>>>> Now as far as the keypad on the phone, works like entering text >>>>> and >>>>> works great. I have generally used my contacts, so don't need to >>>>> use >>>>> the keypad quite as much. >>>>> Like anything, there is a learning curve and you have to be >>>>> willing >>>>> to >>>>> take the time to learn the device. My advice is go to the store >>>>> and >>>>> have someone turn VO on which is located under general/ >>>>> accessibility. >>>>> TO be kind to the next person, you might first have them set the >>>>> triple-click option first to toggle VO on/off so in the event you >>>>> can't turn it off, at least three clicks of the home button will >>>>> return the phone to the non-VO state. Also, listen to some >>>>> podcasts >>>>> at http://www.maccessibility.net, http:// >>>>> www.screenlessswitchers.com, >>>>> and http://www.blindworldblog.com. i might have the last address >>>>> wrong, but the other two sites will provide you some information >>>>> as >>>>> well. Apple also has links to the accessibility manual on their >>>>> site >>>>> and you can find a link from Maccessibility.net as well. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck, >>>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am currently in the process of deciding whether to purchase >>>>>> either a >>>>>> Nokia or an iPhone aftre recently misplacing my Nokia N82, and >>>>>> have a >>>>>> couple of questions for those of you who are using the latter. >>>>>> How >>>>>> easy is it to dial and text using the iPhone? I know I can't by >>>>>> any >>>>>> means be the first person to ask this question, and I am aware >>>>>> that >>>>>> one can fairly use voice dial and the contacts list. Feel free to >>>>>> call >>>>>> me old-fashioned, but I personally hate talking to my phone, and >>>>>> do >>>>>> not want to become primarily dependent on my contacts list as an >>>>>> alternative to memorizing most of my numbers. I also often text >>>>>> on >>>>>> the >>>>>> go, and do not want to lose this ability. I am a fairly new Mac >>>>>> user, >>>>>> and am impressed with the iPhone for several reasons, including >>>>>> its >>>>>> support for VoiceOver and a plethora of applications, as well as >>>>>> its >>>>>> its ability to easily synchronize with my Mac. As great as this >>>>>> new >>>>>> piece of technology is, however, my number 1 priority in >>>>>> purchasing a >>>>>> phone is that I can, first and foremost, efficiently use it as a >>>>>> phone, which is why I'm interested to hear about others' >>>>>> experiences >>>>>> with the iPhone. I recently attended a demo of the iPhone, in >>>>>> which >>>>>> the presenters spent almost the entire time discussing >>>>>> applications, >>>>>> but, when asked how to make calls, said that the dial pad is >>>>>> somewhat >>>>>> slow to use with VoiceOver. One of the presenters also mentioned >>>>>> that >>>>>> it is difficult for him to text on the go, such as when he is >>>>>> switching trains, unless he can use the phone with both hands and >>>>>> background noise is minimal. For this reason, I am hesitant to >>>>>> run >>>>>> out >>>>>> to the store and spend $400 on an iPhone, in addition to the >>>>>> monthly >>>>>> data plan, unless I can be sure that it will meet my needs. Also, >>>>>> does >>>>>> anyone know anything about the iTwinge attachable keyboard which >>>>>> is >>>>>> soon to be released? I'm wondering if this may enable me to >>>>>> better >>>>>> use >>>>>> the dialing/texting functionality of the phone >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance for any input! >>>>>> >>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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