Donna, now you watch that middle finger. :) Yes I agree that it really comes down to what works for you. I haven't tried all possible ways of doing things, but I can tell you that while riding on the bus in particular and on the train at times, having two hands on the device is almost a must, if for no other reason than to keep your fingers from bouncing around on the screen. :) I think I have found myself using two hands and executing a split-tap, but not sure I have all the terms correct. I've read the documentation and just struck out and tapped around until I figured out most stuff. :) What is amazing to me is that although all these gestures and the like sound complicated on the surface, once you start using them, it really is amazingly simple. On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> > Hi Scott, > > Well, it's hard to explain. I basically use my index and middle > fingers. Which one I use for which part of the job depends on where I > am on the screen, i.e. if I need to select something on the far right, > I'll select with the middle finger and tap with the index finger. > Generally, though, I select with the index finger, and tap with the > middle. > > Good luck. I do think with the iphone it's whatever works best. But > personally, I find split-tapping faster. > Best, > Donna > On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> >> Well Donna, okay, now your challenging me to do this with one hand. >> Just curious, do you use a thumb and finger or do you use two >> fingers. What I really want to do is hold the phone and operate it >> all with the same hand. Now that would be truly something to >> learn. :) >> Maybe I'll just have to find a way or grow an extra thumb. :) >> On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Lindsay, >>> >>> One thing I would add to Scott's post is that you need to remember >>> that the interface for the iphone is just different. I know that >>> sounds like I'm stating the obvious, but it's something that can be >>> forgotten easily when you are first learning to use the iphone. >>> What >>> this means is that often you have to find ways to accomplish things >>> that are different from what you're used to. If you stay open to >>> that, I think you'll have a good experience with the iphone. >>> >>> One thing I would mention since you asked about making calls, is >>> that >>> the iphone's equivalent of Speed Dial is something called Favorites. >>> I have my phone set so that a double-press of the home button >>> automatically opens my favorites list. Then I can simply double-tap >>> the name of the person I want to call. Once you get over the notion >>> that you want to press a button to call people in your speed-dial >>> list, it is really every bit as fast and easy. >>> >>> The last thing I will say is that I have no problem at all split >>> tapping with one hand, I just find what I'm looking for with one >>> finger, and then tap with another. Honestly, I think this phone is >>> easier to use one handed than were several of my Windows Mobile >>> phones >>> (I've never used a Nokia, so can't speak to that). >>> >>> HTH, >>> Donna >>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Lindsay, >>>> >>>> First I am new to the iPhone, but been a Mac user for a number of >>>> years. It is possible to learn the interface and how to >>>> effectively >>>> use the keyboard. Not all sighted people find the keyboard easy as >>>> well, so we're not alone. You locate the letter by sliding your >>>> finger to it and tapping with the other hand unless you can tap >>>> with >>>> another finger on the same hand. It is a little slower, but with >>>> practice you can achieve a pretty good speed. In fact as you get >>>> more >>>> comfortable, you reach a point where you nearly put your finger on >>>> the >>>> letter your wanting; if that makes sense. I'm not familiar with >>>> the >>>> keyboard that is coming out, but any info you have would be >>>> appreciated. Personally I don't know how a blind person could get >>>> off >>>> a train, navigate to where they are going, all while texting >>>> anyway. >>>> Maybe I'm just getting to old and can't do all that stuff. >>>> Now as far as the keypad on the phone, works like entering text and >>>> works great. I have generally used my contacts, so don't need to >>>> use >>>> the keypad quite as much. >>>> Like anything, there is a learning curve and you have to be willing >>>> to >>>> take the time to learn the device. My advice is go to the store and >>>> have someone turn VO on which is located under general/ >>>> accessibility. >>>> TO be kind to the next person, you might first have them set the >>>> triple-click option first to toggle VO on/off so in the event you >>>> can't turn it off, at least three clicks of the home button will >>>> return the phone to the non-VO state. Also, listen to some >>>> podcasts >>>> at http://www.maccessibility.net, http:// >>>> www.screenlessswitchers.com, >>>> and http://www.blindworldblog.com. i might have the last address >>>> wrong, but the other two sites will provide you some information as >>>> well. Apple also has links to the accessibility manual on their >>>> site >>>> and you can find a link from Maccessibility.net as well. >>>> >>>> Good luck, >>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I am currently in the process of deciding whether to purchase >>>>> either a >>>>> Nokia or an iPhone aftre recently misplacing my Nokia N82, and >>>>> have a >>>>> couple of questions for those of you who are using the latter. How >>>>> easy is it to dial and text using the iPhone? I know I can't by >>>>> any >>>>> means be the first person to ask this question, and I am aware >>>>> that >>>>> one can fairly use voice dial and the contacts list. Feel free to >>>>> call >>>>> me old-fashioned, but I personally hate talking to my phone, and >>>>> do >>>>> not want to become primarily dependent on my contacts list as an >>>>> alternative to memorizing most of my numbers. I also often text on >>>>> the >>>>> go, and do not want to lose this ability. I am a fairly new Mac >>>>> user, >>>>> and am impressed with the iPhone for several reasons, including >>>>> its >>>>> support for VoiceOver and a plethora of applications, as well as >>>>> its >>>>> its ability to easily synchronize with my Mac. As great as this >>>>> new >>>>> piece of technology is, however, my number 1 priority in >>>>> purchasing a >>>>> phone is that I can, first and foremost, efficiently use it as a >>>>> phone, which is why I'm interested to hear about others' >>>>> experiences >>>>> with the iPhone. I recently attended a demo of the iPhone, in >>>>> which >>>>> the presenters spent almost the entire time discussing >>>>> applications, >>>>> but, when asked how to make calls, said that the dial pad is >>>>> somewhat >>>>> slow to use with VoiceOver. One of the presenters also mentioned >>>>> that >>>>> it is difficult for him to text on the go, such as when he is >>>>> switching trains, unless he can use the phone with both hands and >>>>> background noise is minimal. For this reason, I am hesitant to run >>>>> out >>>>> to the store and spend $400 on an iPhone, in addition to the >>>>> monthly >>>>> data plan, unless I can be sure that it will meet my needs. Also, >>>>> does >>>>> anyone know anything about the iTwinge attachable keyboard which >>>>> is >>>>> soon to be released? I'm wondering if this may enable me to better >>>>> use >>>>> the dialing/texting functionality of the phone >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for any input! >>>>> >>>>> Lindsay >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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