Actually I just broke down and purchased one of the Otter cases, which although expensive, are well worth the money. I also like the fact I can get a really good grip on the phone. It does add some bulk to the overall size, but it's still well worth the $49 I paid. Damn that is expensive for a case, but it's cheaper than replacing the phone. :) On Nov 7, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> > Lol! > > Yeah, I do find I hold the phone with one hand if I'm in a moving > vehicle. That's one situation where typing is kind of tough. > Cheers, > Donna > On Nov 7, 2009, at 6:18 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> >> Donna, now you watch that middle finger. :) >> Yes I agree that it really comes down to what works for you. I >> haven't tried all possible ways of doing things, but I can tell you >> that while riding on the bus in particular and on the train at times, >> having two hands on the device is almost a must, if for no other >> reason than to keep your fingers from bouncing around on the >> screen. :) >> I think I have found myself using two hands and executing a split- >> tap, >> but not sure I have all the terms correct. I've read the >> documentation >> and just struck out and tapped around until I figured out most >> stuff. :) What is amazing to me is that although all these gestures >> and the like sound complicated on the surface, once you start using >> them, it really is amazingly simple. >> On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Scott, >>> >>> Well, it's hard to explain. I basically use my index and middle >>> fingers. Which one I use for which part of the job depends on >>> where I >>> am on the screen, i.e. if I need to select something on the far >>> right, >>> I'll select with the middle finger and tap with the index finger. >>> Generally, though, I select with the index finger, and tap with the >>> middle. >>> >>> Good luck. I do think with the iphone it's whatever works best. But >>> personally, I find split-tapping faster. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Well Donna, okay, now your challenging me to do this with one hand. >>>> Just curious, do you use a thumb and finger or do you use two >>>> fingers. What I really want to do is hold the phone and operate it >>>> all with the same hand. Now that would be truly something to >>>> learn. :) >>>> Maybe I'll just have to find a way or grow an extra thumb. :) >>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lindsay, >>>>> >>>>> One thing I would add to Scott's post is that you need to remember >>>>> that the interface for the iphone is just different. I know that >>>>> sounds like I'm stating the obvious, but it's something that can >>>>> be >>>>> forgotten easily when you are first learning to use the iphone. >>>>> What >>>>> this means is that often you have to find ways to accomplish >>>>> things >>>>> that are different from what you're used to. If you stay open to >>>>> that, I think you'll have a good experience with the iphone. >>>>> >>>>> One thing I would mention since you asked about making calls, is >>>>> that >>>>> the iphone's equivalent of Speed Dial is something called >>>>> Favorites. >>>>> I have my phone set so that a double-press of the home button >>>>> automatically opens my favorites list. Then I can simply double- >>>>> tap >>>>> the name of the person I want to call. Once you get over the >>>>> notion >>>>> that you want to press a button to call people in your speed-dial >>>>> list, it is really every bit as fast and easy. >>>>> >>>>> The last thing I will say is that I have no problem at all split >>>>> tapping with one hand, I just find what I'm looking for with one >>>>> finger, and then tap with another. Honestly, I think this phone >>>>> is >>>>> easier to use one handed than were several of my Windows Mobile >>>>> phones >>>>> (I've never used a Nokia, so can't speak to that). >>>>> >>>>> HTH, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lindsay, >>>>>> >>>>>> First I am new to the iPhone, but been a Mac user for a number of >>>>>> years. It is possible to learn the interface and how to >>>>>> effectively >>>>>> use the keyboard. Not all sighted people find the keyboard easy >>>>>> as >>>>>> well, so we're not alone. You locate the letter by sliding your >>>>>> finger to it and tapping with the other hand unless you can tap >>>>>> with >>>>>> another finger on the same hand. It is a little slower, but with >>>>>> practice you can achieve a pretty good speed. In fact as you get >>>>>> more >>>>>> comfortable, you reach a point where you nearly put your finger >>>>>> on >>>>>> the >>>>>> letter your wanting; if that makes sense. I'm not familiar with >>>>>> the >>>>>> keyboard that is coming out, but any info you have would be >>>>>> appreciated. Personally I don't know how a blind person could >>>>>> get >>>>>> off >>>>>> a train, navigate to where they are going, all while texting >>>>>> anyway. >>>>>> Maybe I'm just getting to old and can't do all that stuff. >>>>>> Now as far as the keypad on the phone, works like entering text >>>>>> and >>>>>> works great. I have generally used my contacts, so don't need to >>>>>> use >>>>>> the keypad quite as much. >>>>>> Like anything, there is a learning curve and you have to be >>>>>> willing >>>>>> to >>>>>> take the time to learn the device. My advice is go to the store >>>>>> and >>>>>> have someone turn VO on which is located under general/ >>>>>> accessibility. >>>>>> TO be kind to the next person, you might first have them set the >>>>>> triple-click option first to toggle VO on/off so in the event you >>>>>> can't turn it off, at least three clicks of the home button will >>>>>> return the phone to the non-VO state. Also, listen to some >>>>>> podcasts >>>>>> at http://www.maccessibility.net, http:// >>>>>> www.screenlessswitchers.com, >>>>>> and http://www.blindworldblog.com. i might have the last address >>>>>> wrong, but the other two sites will provide you some information >>>>>> as >>>>>> well. Apple also has links to the accessibility manual on their >>>>>> site >>>>>> and you can find a link from Maccessibility.net as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck, >>>>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Lindsay Yazzolino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am currently in the process of deciding whether to purchase >>>>>>> either a >>>>>>> Nokia or an iPhone aftre recently misplacing my Nokia N82, and >>>>>>> have a >>>>>>> couple of questions for those of you who are using the latter. >>>>>>> How >>>>>>> easy is it to dial and text using the iPhone? I know I can't by >>>>>>> any >>>>>>> means be the first person to ask this question, and I am aware >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> one can fairly use voice dial and the contacts list. Feel free >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> call >>>>>>> me old-fashioned, but I personally hate talking to my phone, and >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> not want to become primarily dependent on my contacts list as an >>>>>>> alternative to memorizing most of my numbers. I also often text >>>>>>> on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> go, and do not want to lose this ability. I am a fairly new Mac >>>>>>> user, >>>>>>> and am impressed with the iPhone for several reasons, including >>>>>>> its >>>>>>> support for VoiceOver and a plethora of applications, as well as >>>>>>> its >>>>>>> its ability to easily synchronize with my Mac. As great as this >>>>>>> new >>>>>>> piece of technology is, however, my number 1 priority in >>>>>>> purchasing a >>>>>>> phone is that I can, first and foremost, efficiently use it as a >>>>>>> phone, which is why I'm interested to hear about others' >>>>>>> experiences >>>>>>> with the iPhone. I recently attended a demo of the iPhone, in >>>>>>> which >>>>>>> the presenters spent almost the entire time discussing >>>>>>> applications, >>>>>>> but, when asked how to make calls, said that the dial pad is >>>>>>> somewhat >>>>>>> slow to use with VoiceOver. One of the presenters also mentioned >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> it is difficult for him to text on the go, such as when he is >>>>>>> switching trains, unless he can use the phone with both hands >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> background noise is minimal. For this reason, I am hesitant to >>>>>>> run >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> to the store and spend $400 on an iPhone, in addition to the >>>>>>> monthly >>>>>>> data plan, unless I can be sure that it will meet my needs. >>>>>>> Also, >>>>>>> does >>>>>>> anyone know anything about the iTwinge attachable keyboard which >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> soon to be released? I'm wondering if this may enable me to >>>>>>> better >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> the dialing/texting functionality of the phone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any input! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lindsay >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
