Right. If a simple hacker can do it, any developer can. Its not a walled garden 
if you have the skills to climb over the wall, and IMHO, the flowers are 
beautiful in Apple's garden, and fake in Google's.

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> On Aug 11, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Janina Sajka <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Devin Prater writes:
>> There is no known way to do it.
>> 
> So, we're going round in circles here.
> 
> Is Apple a walled garden that keeps others out? No, say some, because
> Acapela has ported their voices, and someone has hacked Eloquence to
> work.
> 
> But, no one knows where to learn how to do it? That's a "walled garden"
> in my book. It's one of the less attractive things about Apple, imo.
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Janina Sajka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, so where is the process documented? If I wanted to compile espeak
>>> for VoiceOver, where do I go to find the steps to take?
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>>>> Hi!
>>>> The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know.
>>>> No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either.
>>>> /A
>>>>> 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka <[email protected]>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying
>>>>> espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a
>>>>> Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of
>>>>> specific suggestions for improving pronunciation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://espeak.sf.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need
>>>>> for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again,
>>>>> I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of
>>>>> building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him
>>>>> specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is
>>>>> relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a
>>>>> few centuries.
>>>>> 
>>>>> hth
>>>>> 
>>>>> Janina
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brian Howerton writes:
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek.  I was wondering if 
>>>>>> anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with 
>>>>>> voiceover.  Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover 
>>>>>> as far as pronunciations and things like that.  Thanks,
>>>>>> Brian
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