Well fine. I PERSONALLY don't know where to look. I suppose Apple's developer 
documentation. Lol hope that helps. And if it doesn't, then email apple and 
complain to them.

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> On Aug 11, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Janina Sajka <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yet you say no one knows where to find documentation? That's pretty ugly
> to me.
> 
> But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We all know that, no?
> 
> 
> Devin Prater writes:
>> Right. If a simple hacker can do it, any developer can. Its not a walled 
>> garden if you have the skills to climb over the wall, and IMHO, the flowers 
>> are beautiful in Apple's garden, and fake in Google's.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Janina Sajka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Devin Prater writes:
>>>> There is no known way to do it.
>>>> 
>>> So, we're going round in circles here.
>>> 
>>> Is Apple a walled garden that keeps others out? No, say some, because
>>> Acapela has ported their voices, and someone has hacked Eloquence to
>>> work.
>>> 
>>> But, no one knows where to learn how to do it? That's a "walled garden"
>>> in my book. It's one of the less attractive things about Apple, imo.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Janina Sajka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, so where is the process documented? If I wanted to compile espeak
>>>>> for VoiceOver, where do I go to find the steps to take?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Janina
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anders Holmberg writes:
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> The thing is that espeak does not work with voiceover from what i know.
>>>>>> No one seems willing to compile it for voiceover either.
>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>> 7 aug. 2015 kl. 22:45 skrev Janina Sajka <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm just now catching up on this list and note no one suggested trying
>>>>>>> espeak for osx. Yes, it's a formant voice. However, it does provide a
>>>>>>> Classical Greek varient, and the maintainer is very supportive of
>>>>>>> specific suggestions for improving pronunciation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://espeak.sf.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have wondered, however, whether Classical Greek is what we really need
>>>>>>> for Biblical study, as the New Testament is in Koine Greek. Here again,
>>>>>>> I suspect Jonathan, the maintainer of espeak, would be supportive of
>>>>>>> building and providing a Koine voice, if some expert might give him
>>>>>>> specifics on what needs to be different. I would imagine Koine is
>>>>>>> relatively close to Classical Greek, as the time difference is only a
>>>>>>> few centuries.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brian Howerton writes:
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>> I am trying to teach myself new testament greek.  I was wondering if 
>>>>>>>> anyone has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with 
>>>>>>>> voiceover.  Just was curious to see how that might work with voiceover 
>>>>>>>> as far as pronunciations and things like that.  Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Brian
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