Hello All,
I felt I needed to send this along to clear some air, respond to some comments
and address some assumptions which seem to be going around in regard to this
list and my list involvement in the current situation and over the past few
months.
Firstly, I only mentioned my current situation with my loved one simply to be
open and honest about exactly why it is that I am not able to address matters
more quickly. That is the *only* reason. The list situation has been so
volatile that I felt you all deserve this and that it was only fair of me.
Secondly, I was in no way lecturing any of you on what you should be doing or
holding anyone here to any higher of a standard than I would consider holding
myself. So if my note came off like that, then please understand this was not
at all my intention. I simply meant to suggest a way to quell the current list
tide until I can more appropriately address these important issues.
In addition, many of you seem to be under the assumption that I do not pay any
attention whatsoever to this list and that there is no moderation going on here
at all. This is simply not the case. There is, and has been someone who has
been kind enough to help manage whatever aspects of the list they can, when
they can. So the idea that I somehow do not care or have not been considerate
of this list is simply and completely incorrect.
I also check in on this list every couple of days. I do not read every single
post, but I do read some and I do skim as well. Since as I’ve said above, there
has been moderation behind the scenes, I felt this was appropriate.
Since I did miss a serious issue, it is obviously not. So as I have mentioned
before, I am currently deciding on additional moderators to assist.
Make no mistake, as CJ has mentioned, if any list member here is shown any kind
of abuse through this list, it matters to me very deeply. The fact that I did
not know this was going on does not mean I do not care or that I do not pay any
attention here. I simply missed this in my checks of the list. This does not
mean I do not view this as my responsibility. On the contrary, I take full
responsibility for this. However, it does mean that I am a human being and do
miss things from time to time. It is, and always has been extremely important
to me that any list I moderate be a safe place for every member on it. I take
this very seriously. This is very deep to who I am. -And, as I have already
said, I am deeply sorry for the kind of insanity that has happened here.
Having said this, I feel it is important for me to ask that you please
understand, I am also not a service that people are entitled to, I am a person
and as such, have a life and will occasionally miss things that go on here.
Now, I am not saying that you all feel this way, but there are certainly some
who seem to. I will try (as I have always done here) to do the best I can for
this list.
Understand that I get absolutely no compensation of any kind for the running of
this list, and am lucky if I ever have received more than two thank you notes
per year, every year that I have worked with this list, even at its best of
times. I certainly get my share of demands, criticism, questions, help requests
and general comments. This is fine, I expect this but please realize that this
is, and has always been simply a labor of love so to speak.
I do very much view the running of this list and my others as my
responsibility. I care very deeply about helping this community so this sort of
thing affects me more than you may realize. Some have also accused me of some
sort of power trip by still being this list’s owner. Firstly, no one has asked
me for list ownership and secondly, though this is a community, and as Jonathan
has mentioned, a brand, this is, at the end of the day, simply a mailing list.
This is not some sort of power trip to me. Yes, I can assist you all in keeping
this community going, but as I have said before, it is you who keep this
community going. I can only assist you all. You are the community and I am a
member of it just like you. This mailing list is merely a vehicle for you the
community to express yourselves and I can assist. Our community means a lot to
me so I feel this list is a very important resource.
I am not sure how much clearer or more honest I can be. I will apologize once
again and simply say that this matters to me whether it seems like it or not.
As I have said, I will address what list issues I can now, (like getting
another mod) and address any others as soon as time allows on my end.
Let me close by saying how much I appreciate your understanding and support and
your taking time to read this.
I wish you and yours, a lovely day / evening. (wherever you may be) Talk with
you all soon…
Sincerely,
Cara
On Aug 27, 2015, at 9:17 AM, CJ Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:
Cara,
As someone who once held his own child while she passed, I can sympathize with
your distress as you face end-of-life issues with a friend. However, as I
learned during a similar time of my own, life goes on. In particular, I had to
continue dealing with the day-to-day aspects of my job @ a busy non-profit
organization & delegate responsibilities to others as required.
However, all of that being said, I don’t believe that the level of frustration,
being experienced by the majority of this list’s members, is either understood or
being acted upon by you or any other moderator. In addition, I don’t feel that a
lecture on maturity or the usage of the delete key is warranted or appropriate.
You are in effect calling the well-behaved members of this list to higher
standards, while asking them to ignore or overlook the poor behavior of the
individual who has chosen to ignore polite conventions that help to govern the
interactions of society. Honestly, some of the posts I’ve seen by this individual
directed a while back @ one of the ladies on this list, if directed @ my wife or
one of my daughters, would have been cause for a swift & violent physical
reaction.
In short, while I feel deeply for you, the situation on this list has been ignored for far
to long & is snow-balling. The, kind & considerate members of this list are,
basically, pleading with you to either appoint a moderator who will act on these sorts of
issues or—if life’s circumstances are preventing your full participation in this list’s
activities—then relinquish ownership to some one who has the time & where-with-all to
make a positive difference. I hope you can understand that all of this is offered with
compassion towards you.
With great regard,
CJ Daniel
On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello All,
firstly, this list is not going to die.
Now, to be completely frank and honest with you all. I have been in the
hospital for days now, visiting with a very dear one to me, who is passing away.
So honestly, I cannot address any of these matters right now.
The fact is, you are all adults and you know enough to ignore posts or posters
who simply want (for whatever reason) to incite or stir the pot so to speak.
So if there is a message you do not wish to read, or do not agree with, just
delete it and move on. This is the adult thing to do.
Neither a list owner or moderator are magic people who make everything alright.
Yes, we can ban people, etc, but in the end, this comes down to you all
managing yourselves in a way which you all are proud of.
that is what makes this list worth something.
So if you feel this list is a resource you wish to preserve and help to grow,
as you have been doing now for years, then just simply act in accordance with
those beliefs which you know to be right and the rest will follow.
I promise you, I will address this more fully when I can. I am sure (or at
least would hope) that in light of these circumstances, that you would
understand.
My sincerest apologies that there have been issues of late. Some of these are
actually being dealt with already, in the background, but the fact that this
topic exists says that you need more.
I will do more as soon as I can.
For now, please use your own good judgement and simply act as you know you
should, and this list will be the kind and helping place that it has been.
Thank you all for reading this and I will be in touch again soon.
Sincerely,
Cara
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On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <[email protected]> wrote:
Just wondering after reading all the messages of whether this list should be or
not be, is this list going to continue or is it going to die?
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