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On 9/28/2015 8:50 AM, Todor Fassl wrote:
I am guessing you never moderated a list before, right?


There are 2 types of list moderators. Those who see it as their job to
help people solve problems and those who think it's their job to enforce
rules. You sound like that latter type.


What you will almost certainly end up with is a slightly less wide
ranging list with a very small clihe  of regular contributors. But maybe
that's what you want.


You're going to have like a dozen people answering each others very
specific questions. Once in a while, one of them will forget themselves
and ask an IOS question. They'll thinkeither forget or they'll think
they are so much a part of the in crowd that they can get away with it.
Then you'll have to smack them down and there will be a huge fight. This
pattern will repeat itself every 6 months or so.



The only alternative to being a tyrannical list moderator is to do what
the moderators of this list have done.  That does have it's drawbacks,
the primary one being the high traffic.


There is no perfect solution. Life is messy. Welcome to the planet earth.



On 09/28/2015 07:16 AM, deedra waters wrote:
wow , well that makes this list even harder to try and track since
it’s already overly high traffic. well if there’s no alternative I’ll
still see about hosting something mac specific or finding a place to
host one. i just dont have the time or the patience to wade through
all of the iphone topics just for the mac ones. perhapse people should
change the name of this list while they’re at it. I know i’m being on
the harsh side and i’m sorry but  this does make this list even harder
to follow.


On Sep 28, 2015, at 5:02 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:

A few weeks back, people were asking about posting anything related
to Apple accessibility since so many products are so linked nowadays.
The reasoning was that--with iTunes syncing, Handoff, keyboard
commands on iOS, iCloud Drive documents, and so on--all Apple
products are so linked that it was too restrictive to refuse messages
about iOS/Apple TV/watchOS. The mods agreed, and thus the list's
topics expanded. I'm not saying this is good or bad, just telling you
why it happened.
On Sep 28, 2015, at 07:56, deedra waters <[email protected]>
wrote:

If there is no response to this question/there is no alternative ml
I will happily find a place to host one. Moderators this topic
really does not sit well with me because of the fact that this
appears to no longer be a mac list. after all this isn’t viphone.:P


On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:47 AM, Nicolai Svendsen
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi!

I would be curious of this as well. It does say that this list is
the home of the blind Mac user community, so that it has
degenerated into a list with so many topics regarding iOS is
strange to me, especially since we have moderators. The description
doesn't reflect iOS anywhere, though, and if both are allowed now
the description should probably be changed. The name is rather
misleading, but clearly, posting iOS-related discussions is OK here.

Of course, that makes things a little confusing since this is
Macvisionaries after all.

Nicolai

On 9/28/2015 2:19 AM, deedra waters wrote:
Is there another ml that’s more mac related? it seems this list
has degenerated into an ios mailing list andand i would like one
that provides mac support only.

BTW why do people send mail for a ios device to this list? I’ve
deleted some 1400 messages from this folder and a lot of it is ios
related so if anyone knows of one i would appreciate info on an ml
for macs not ios.



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