I seem to recall this same thread was asked to end a couple of weeks ago from mark and he did it very politely
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 08:59 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: other mac accessibility mailing list? This thread would be considered off topic on many mailing lists, and rightly so. From E.T.'s Keyboard... [email protected] Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/28/2015 8:50 AM, Todor Fassl wrote: > I am guessing you never moderated a list before, right? > > > There are 2 types of list moderators. Those who see it as their job to > help people solve problems and those who think it's their job to > enforce rules. You sound like that latter type. > > > What you will almost certainly end up with is a slightly less wide > ranging list with a very small clihe of regular contributors. But > maybe that's what you want. > > > You're going to have like a dozen people answering each others very > specific questions. Once in a while, one of them will forget > themselves and ask an IOS question. They'll thinkeither forget or > they'll think they are so much a part of the in crowd that they can get away > with it. > Then you'll have to smack them down and there will be a huge fight. > This pattern will repeat itself every 6 months or so. > > > > The only alternative to being a tyrannical list moderator is to do > what the moderators of this list have done. That does have it's > drawbacks, the primary one being the high traffic. > > > There is no perfect solution. Life is messy. Welcome to the planet earth. > > > > On 09/28/2015 07:16 AM, deedra waters wrote: >> wow , well that makes this list even harder to try and track since >> it’s already overly high traffic. well if there’s no alternative I’ll >> still see about hosting something mac specific or finding a place to >> host one. i just dont have the time or the patience to wade through >> all of the iphone topics just for the mac ones. perhapse people >> should change the name of this list while they’re at it. I know i’m >> being on the harsh side and i’m sorry but this does make this list >> even harder to follow. >> >> >>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 5:02 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> A few weeks back, people were asking about posting anything related >>> to Apple accessibility since so many products are so linked nowadays. >>> The reasoning was that--with iTunes syncing, Handoff, keyboard >>> commands on iOS, iCloud Drive documents, and so on--all Apple >>> products are so linked that it was too restrictive to refuse >>> messages about iOS/Apple TV/watchOS. The mods agreed, and thus the >>> list's topics expanded. I'm not saying this is good or bad, just >>> telling you why it happened. >>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 07:56, deedra waters <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If there is no response to this question/there is no alternative ml >>>> I will happily find a place to host one. Moderators this topic >>>> really does not sit well with me because of the fact that this >>>> appears to no longer be a mac list. after all this isn’t viphone.:P >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:47 AM, Nicolai Svendsen >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> I would be curious of this as well. It does say that this list is >>>>> the home of the blind Mac user community, so that it has >>>>> degenerated into a list with so many topics regarding iOS is >>>>> strange to me, especially since we have moderators. The >>>>> description doesn't reflect iOS anywhere, though, and if both are >>>>> allowed now the description should probably be changed. The name >>>>> is rather misleading, but clearly, posting iOS-related discussions is OK >>>>> here. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, that makes things a little confusing since this is >>>>> Macvisionaries after all. >>>>> >>>>> Nicolai >>>>> >>>>> On 9/28/2015 2:19 AM, deedra waters wrote: >>>>>> Is there another ml that’s more mac related? it seems this list >>>>>> has degenerated into an ios mailing list andand i would like one >>>>>> that provides mac support only. >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW why do people send mail for a ios device to this list? I’ve >>>>>> deleted some 1400 messages from this folder and a lot of it is >>>>>> ios related so if anyone knows of one i would appreciate info on >>>>>> an ml for macs not ios. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> [email protected] >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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