No I agree with you, that’s why I mentioned what I thought about bugs.  The 
whole vibe I get from this thread is there are a lot of people afraid of their 
machines.  None of this stuff is hard to revert, especially if you have a good 
backup which Apple makes it ridiculously easy to do.  No guts, no glory!

> On Oct 1, 2015, at 4:13 AM, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> A philosophical pondering which probably will get me flogged and called names 
> but isn’t it strange how when a new release of the MacOs comes out, the 
> things that stay longest around in the blind community are the bugs and the 
> negative? If by chance there would be things that actually could effect us 
> positively that would hardly be mentioned at all and if they are, they 
> quickly drown in the negative comments. I have used El Capitan from Beta 1 
> and am loving it! I’ve noticed one bug but i can live with it since it was 
> much, much worse in the developer betas. I can’t remember this much 
> negativity coming when windows or new jaws releases came along, it’s like 
> Apple still is the under dog and it has to be perfect and even then we’d 
> probably find something that’s not right.
> But why should anyone listen i’m a minority and go against what the majority 
> says so i must be wrong by default.
> /Krister
> 
>> 30 sep. 2015 kl. 19:56 skrev Alex Hall <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug list 
>> for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there are some 
>> pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a podcast, 
>> covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
>> 
>> Bug List:
>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
>> 
>> New Features Blog:
>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
>> 
>> New Features Podcast:
>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
>> 
>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a little 
>> arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a single 
>> place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the only 
>> accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
>> 
>> --
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex Hall
>> [email protected]
>> 
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