I have to agree with George here, honestly. O, K. I've seen a couple of
the bugs, but not very severe. Not at least to the point where I can't work
around them.
Chris.
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From: "george b" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: El Capitan Is Here
Well scott here is the issue,
People red his bug list, but I also listened to his pod cast on 10.11, and
it was all done one day before he even has 10.11 installed he did all this
on the last beta of 10.11
So I get a kick out of how people read things and not follow through.
I do not see any of these bugs or almost non of these in the final release
of 10.11
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 05:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: El Capitan Is Here
As I mentioned, I’m not getting a lot of these bugs. I experienced the
email bug for a bit but on reboot it hasn’t happened again since yesterday.
No audio docking bug and haven’t run in to anything else yet although I’m
sure I will. So far so good though, much cleaner than the jump to Yosemite
was.
On Sep 30, 2015, at 9:57 PM, denise avant <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Alex,
Thanks for the blog, podcast, and bug report. Most of all, thanks for your
honesty regarding these bugs.
The bugs here are really tough to deal with. As someone who really likes
using the Mac, but is an average user, for the first time, I think I’m
going to wait for another update. Since the mainstream is reporting great
stability, I think those of us who rely on voiceover will be waiting
longer than usual..
I know that with every new release, there are always bugs. but these are
significant. It is very disheartening to see this in a long-awaited
release. And no, this is not a rant about Apple not caring about
accessibility.
On Sep 30, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote:
As with any new operating system, I would suggest waiting until at least
the first, maybe the second major update before installing it, much safer
that way.
Original message:
You can’t really go by these bug lists. They may be an issue for one
person, not on another. Depends on a lot of factors.
On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you so much, Alex for posting this list of bugs in the new
operating system. Having just read a mainstream review the talked about
how this was a "rock solid" release, it is disheartening to see so many
bugs in your list. I do know that Apple cares about accessibility. But
it is damned hard to keep that in mind when they release a rock solid
version with so many Voice over bugs. I have to believe that equivalent
functionality for the mainstream would not be impacted in a release
version. But because we are a small group, we can wait. And we can love
it, as I'm sure the critics will now come out and tell me.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug
list for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as
there are some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog,
and did a podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
Bug List:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
New Features Blog:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
New Features Podcast:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a
little arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give
people a single place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those
are the only accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
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Have a great day,
Alex Hall
[email protected]
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