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> On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sure. They could make the home button into a sort of reactive button, where > you would press on the raised metal button, it would click, 3d touch, and > would depress like a regular button. Tellephone keys, little keyboard keys > for typing, feelable icons, it'd all make sense, especially sense 3d touch is > involved. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I’m not sure about that either because I know they do hire good quality >> people even for accessibility efforts so I’m not sure it’s that simple. I >> heard about the patent for the reactive metal but I can’t imagine that being >> practical unless it has some benefit for the sited as well. >>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> For whatever the reason, I simply don't think Apple has higher the >>> expertise they need to get braille right. I think this notion of them doing >>> something special with braille on the screen is nonsense. If I'm wrong and >>> proven wrong, so be it. But I really do believe the problem is they don't >>> know how to get it right, and they haven't found the person who can help >>> them do it. That seem sad, given their money, but there you go. >>> . >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I sort of think Apple has something big planned though. I've read that >>>> they have their own patent for sort of elastic and shapable metal, so that >>>> the metal could form dots and such. I don't know if they'll do that, or >>>> just keep supporting braille displays, but the lack of new fixes in >>>> braille leads me to think that they'll do a tactile display for the >>>> iPhone, and the braille display things will just get in the way. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> BTW, I meant that tongue and cheek, I am in total agreement with you. >>>>> Apple’s braille support needs a lot of work and it’s inexcusable how bad >>>>> it is now. >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> Oh dear. >>>>>> Soon i will give up on this as they do not seem to prioritize braille at >>>>>> all. >>>>>> If apple was a german or European company there’s no doubt that the >>>>>> braille support will be better. >>>>>> It took us forever to get good braille support for Jaws. >>>>>> Also for window eyes but its there. >>>>>> Nvda has support for braille displays but braille support in the sense >>>>>> of navigating seems not to be able yet. >>>>>> Dolphin has good support and orca for linux. >>>>>> Still mac is not very well supported in braille. >>>>>> Its a shame and i will really let them know that. >>>>>> Sorry for my offensive attack here but i am so tired of this. >>>>>> THey just get back to you saying thanks for your report we will pass >>>>>> this on to blablabla. >>>>>> I am pissed off but i hope things will be better. >>>>>> Still optemistic though. >>>>>> /A >>>>>>> 1 okt. 2015 kl. 08:33 skrev William Windels <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> I was reading the bug and feature report of Kris , thx for that. >>>>>>> As announced in that blog, there was not much braille testing with >>>>>>> 10.11 while this is for me and others important. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some first remarks: >>>>>>> 1. It happens often that I have braille on the display but I can’t >>>>>>> move around. The trick seems to be that I have to switch to another >>>>>>> program and then I should come back. A kind of screen refreshing is >>>>>>> needed here perhaps? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. I turn vo-cursor on the braille display off because dots 7 and 8 >>>>>>> are used for capitals and some computer signs. >>>>>>> When this is turned off, I can’t see on the display which application >>>>>>> has the focus while switching from app to app with command+tab. (Yes, I >>>>>>> can hear it but sometimes I don’t use sound if I am in a course. >>>>>>> I suggested accessibility to put the selected program on the most left >>>>>>> position on the display or, like in windows with jaws, only the >>>>>>> selected program should appear on the display while switching from one >>>>>>> program to another. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Not all controls like radiobuttons , checkboxes, comboboxes, >>>>>>> edit-fields , are presented with symbols on the display. Mostly, they >>>>>>> are fully written in dutch “keuzerondje=radiobutton, >>>>>>> aankruisvakje=checkbox, keuzelijst=combobox … >>>>>>> This should be represented with symbols like { }/{x} [ ] [x] ( )/(x) … >>>>>>> I subpose that the controls like above, are presented with this kind >>>>>>> of symbols when the interface-language is set on English. >>>>>>> This is een old question I think but still not changed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any comments or reports to apple accessibility are very welcom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> William Windels >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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