Aggree braille in OS X is atrocious. 

This is one of the reasons I still keep around a Windows installation. 

Yours truly, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Sent from my 13-inch MacBook Pro 




> On 3 Oct 2015, at 4:50 am, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well maybe you’re right but its very frustrating that braille hasn’t come 
> very far on the mac.
> /A
>> 2 okt. 2015 kl. 14:14 skrev Scott Granados <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> If Apple were a european company or especially German company they would 
>> have faked it so the braille support only worked in the government agency’s 
>> office responsible for certifying braille support.  It would have failed in 
>> the real world.  Sort of the same philosophy as the German Auto 
>> manufacturers and pollution control.:)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Oh dear.
>>> Soon i will give up on this as they do not seem to prioritize braille at 
>>> all.
>>> If apple was a german or European company there’s no doubt that the braille 
>>> support will be better.
>>> It took us forever to get good braille support for Jaws.
>>> Also for window eyes but its there.
>>> Nvda has support for braille displays but braille support in the sense of 
>>> navigating seems not to be able yet.
>>> Dolphin has good support and orca for linux.
>>> Still mac is not very well supported in braille.
>>> Its a shame and i will really let them know that.
>>> Sorry for my offensive attack here but i am so tired of this.
>>> THey just get back to you saying thanks for your report we will pass this 
>>> on to blablabla.
>>> I am pissed off but i hope things will be better.
>>> Still optemistic though.
>>> /A 
>>>> 1 okt. 2015 kl. 08:33 skrev William Windels <[email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I was reading the bug and feature report of Kris , thx for that.
>>>> As announced in that blog, there was not much braille testing with 10.11 
>>>> while this is for me and others important.
>>>> 
>>>> Some first remarks:
>>>> 1. It happens often that I have braille on the display but I can’t move 
>>>> around. The trick seems to be that I have to switch to another program and 
>>>> then I should  come back. A kind of screen refreshing is needed here 
>>>> perhaps?
>>>> 
>>>> 2. I turn vo-cursor on the braille display off because dots 7 and 8 are 
>>>> used for capitals and some computer signs.
>>>> When this is turned off, I can’t see on the display which application has 
>>>> the focus while switching from app to app with command+tab. (Yes, I can 
>>>> hear it but sometimes I don’t use sound if I am in a course.
>>>> I suggested accessibility to put the selected program on the most left 
>>>> position on the display or, like in windows with jaws, only the selected 
>>>> program should appear on the display while switching from one program to 
>>>> another.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Not all controls like radiobuttons , checkboxes, comboboxes, 
>>>> edit-fields , are presented with symbols on the display. Mostly, they are 
>>>> fully written in dutch “keuzerondje=radiobutton, aankruisvakje=checkbox, 
>>>> keuzelijst=combobox …
>>>> This should be represented with symbols like { }/{x} [ ] [x] ( )/(x) …
>>>> I subpose that the controls like above, are  presented with this kind of 
>>>> symbols when the interface-language is set on English.
>>>> This is een old question I think but still not changed.
>>>> 
>>>> Any comments or reports to apple accessibility are very welcom
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> William Windels
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