If your Mac can run Lion you can install El Cap. 

Yours truly, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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> On 18 Oct 2015, at 9:44 AM, Eric Oyen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> well,
> I am not on the latest OS X (with safari). my machine isn't new enough. What 
> I have noticed of late is that websites are starting to use scripting that is 
> really non-standard. this can cause a myriad of issues in safari, like 
> invisible fields, land marks that get skipped, buttons that won't activate or 
> edit fields that won't edit.
> 
> I saw this kind of behavior on the mac insider site (and I go there fairly 
> often. sometime in the last month, they changed something and now I get 
> browser hangs, lagged response or sometimes even a crash. THats on my OS X 
> lion system.
> 
> So, some of this may be the websites themselves while the rest can be a bug 
> or 2.
> 
> if you want product improvements, you need to report the bugs. make that lots 
> of reports. The more bug reports, the higher up the priority tree that bug 
> starts to go. I am doing this with Facebook right now as their client 
> sometimes reads comments on group postings and at other times, makes them 
> invisible to voiceover. I might just take a video and post it to youtube and 
> point the Facebook devs at that. I am sure they would appreciate it (so much 
> so they might take a DMCA action to have the content removed).
> 
> report, report and more report. provide details and pictures.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>> E.T.  I understand where you're coming from with this, but it still doesn't 
>> answer my question of what the initial problem was that people were 
>> experiencing with Safari in the first place.
>> 
>> With all due respect, E.T, Is that too much to ask?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.T." <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?
>> 
>> 
>>  But it IS opinions regardless who says what. Its not a new concept
>> that when someone has trouble with say, OS X, that makes Windows look
>> very appealing. Or the opposite. How many times have we seen unhappy
>> users of iOS devices state they will go with some other brand? Its a
>> knee jerk reaction to what seems to be insurmountable frustrations. We
>> do not need to feed into this.
>> 
>>  Chris, you are right up there with the best of them in this respect.
>> Yet how some people on this list overlook *your* drama and try their
>> best to help you? My hat is off to those people.
>> 
>>  We all have our moments of insurmountable frustration. Its a good
>> time to walk away, get some fresh air or coffee, anything but sit there
>> fuming.
>> 
>>  A good strategy would be akin to a well known TV detective hwo would
>> say, "Just the facts, ma'am". In other works, state the issue, leave the
>> drama out of it, get to the point and pray that someone will provide a
>> quick solution. And if you were smart and walked away, you just might
>> come back to that solution.
>> 
>>  The indisputable truth of it is that nothing will ever be 100% just
>> the way we want it. When Apple works. Apple is peachy. But let one thing
>> go wrong and Apple is the scum of the earth. That accomplishes nothing.
>> Fact is, human error will *always* be part of the equation. There is no
>> escaping that.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  [email protected]
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 10/17/2015 11:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> I'm not meaning this to be disrespectful, but I agree totally with
>>> Jamie.  In all this drama about how the mac is worse, and how Windows is
>>> becoming more appealing, we've lost the main topic. It's so bad now, I
>>> don't even know what exactly the initial bugs are.
>>> Can someone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward
>>> either Windows, or toward Apple?  Leave your opinions out.  For now, I
>>> just want the facts.
>>> Again, I definitely mean this with all due respect.
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   *From:* Jamie Pauls <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>   *To:* [email protected]
>>>   <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>   *Sent:* Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:27 PM
>>>   *Subject:* Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?
>>> 
>>>   To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues some are
>>>   experiencing. What are a few of the worst bugs, here?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   Take care and have a great day.
>>>   Jamie Pauls
>>>   [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> 
>>>>   On Oct 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu
>>>>   <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   You can report bugs to [email protected]
>>>>   <mailto:[email protected]>.  You can also, if you have
>>>>   access to the Apple Bug Reporter, Radar, use that system to file
>>>>   bugs against the “Accessibility” classification.
>>>> 
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