But it IS opinions regardless who says what. Its not a new concept that when someone has trouble with say, OS X, that makes Windows look very appealing. Or the opposite. How many times have we seen unhappy users of iOS devices state they will go with some other brand? Its a knee jerk reaction to what seems to be insurmountable frustrations. We do not need to feed into this.

Chris, you are right up there with the best of them in this respect. Yet how some people on this list overlook *your* drama and try their best to help you? My hat is off to those people.

We all have our moments of insurmountable frustration. Its a good time to walk away, get some fresh air or coffee, anything but sit there fuming.

A good strategy would be akin to a well known TV detective hwo would say, "Just the facts, ma'am". In other works, state the issue, leave the drama out of it, get to the point and pray that someone will provide a quick solution. And if you were smart and walked away, you just might come back to that solution.

The indisputable truth of it is that nothing will ever be 100% just the way we want it. When Apple works. Apple is peachy. But let one thing go wrong and Apple is the scum of the earth. That accomplishes nothing. Fact is, human error will *always* be part of the equation. There is no escaping that.

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On 10/17/2015 11:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I'm not meaning this to be disrespectful, but I agree totally with
Jamie.  In all this drama about how the mac is worse, and how Windows is
becoming more appealing, we've lost the main topic. It's so bad now, I
don't even know what exactly the initial bugs are.
Can someone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward
either Windows, or toward Apple?  Leave your opinions out.  For now, I
just want the facts.
Again, I definitely mean this with all due respect.
Chris.

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Jamie Pauls <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:27 PM
    *Subject:* Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever?

    To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues some are
    experiencing. What are a few of the worst bugs, here?



    Take care and have a great day.
    Jamie Pauls
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    On Oct 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    You can report bugs to [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>.  You can also, if you have
    access to the Apple Bug Reporter, Radar, use that system to file
    bugs against the “Accessibility” classification.

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