ok, I will have to do that. I need a disk to back things up here first though.
-eric On Oct 17, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Sadam Ahmed wrote: > If your Mac can run Lion you can install El Cap. > > Yours truly, > > Sadam Ahmed > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > > > >> On 18 Oct 2015, at 9:44 AM, Eric Oyen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> well, >> I am not on the latest OS X (with safari). my machine isn't new enough. What >> I have noticed of late is that websites are starting to use scripting that >> is really non-standard. this can cause a myriad of issues in safari, like >> invisible fields, land marks that get skipped, buttons that won't activate >> or edit fields that won't edit. >> >> I saw this kind of behavior on the mac insider site (and I go there fairly >> often. sometime in the last month, they changed something and now I get >> browser hangs, lagged response or sometimes even a crash. THats on my OS X >> lion system. >> >> So, some of this may be the websites themselves while the rest can be a bug >> or 2. >> >> if you want product improvements, you need to report the bugs. make that >> lots of reports. The more bug reports, the higher up the priority tree that >> bug starts to go. I am doing this with Facebook right now as their client >> sometimes reads comments on group postings and at other times, makes them >> invisible to voiceover. I might just take a video and post it to youtube and >> point the Facebook devs at that. I am sure they would appreciate it (so much >> so they might take a DMCA action to have the content removed). >> >> report, report and more report. provide details and pictures. >> >> -eric >> >>> On Oct 17, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>> >>> E.T. I understand where you're coming from with this, but it still doesn't >>> answer my question of what the initial problem was that people were >>> experiencing with Safari in the first place. >>> >>> With all due respect, E.T, Is that too much to ask? >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "E.T." <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 3:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >>> >>> >>> But it IS opinions regardless who says what. Its not a new concept >>> that when someone has trouble with say, OS X, that makes Windows look >>> very appealing. Or the opposite. How many times have we seen unhappy >>> users of iOS devices state they will go with some other brand? Its a >>> knee jerk reaction to what seems to be insurmountable frustrations. We >>> do not need to feed into this. >>> >>> Chris, you are right up there with the best of them in this respect. >>> Yet how some people on this list overlook *your* drama and try their >>> best to help you? My hat is off to those people. >>> >>> We all have our moments of insurmountable frustration. Its a good >>> time to walk away, get some fresh air or coffee, anything but sit there >>> fuming. >>> >>> A good strategy would be akin to a well known TV detective hwo would >>> say, "Just the facts, ma'am". In other works, state the issue, leave the >>> drama out of it, get to the point and pray that someone will provide a >>> quick solution. And if you were smart and walked away, you just might >>> come back to that solution. >>> >>> The indisputable truth of it is that nothing will ever be 100% just >>> the way we want it. When Apple works. Apple is peachy. But let one thing >>> go wrong and Apple is the scum of the earth. That accomplishes nothing. >>> Fact is, human error will *always* be part of the equation. There is no >>> escaping that. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> [email protected] >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>>> On 10/17/2015 11:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>> I'm not meaning this to be disrespectful, but I agree totally with >>>> Jamie. In all this drama about how the mac is worse, and how Windows is >>>> becoming more appealing, we've lost the main topic. It's so bad now, I >>>> don't even know what exactly the initial bugs are. >>>> Can someone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward >>>> either Windows, or toward Apple? Leave your opinions out. For now, I >>>> just want the facts. >>>> Again, I definitely mean this with all due respect. >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Jamie Pauls <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:27 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >>>> >>>> To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues some are >>>> experiencing. What are a few of the worst bugs, here? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Take care and have a great day. >>>> Jamie Pauls >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You can report bugs to [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. 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