Thank you so much.  I actually sat down with sited people and went through 
david woodbridges podcast on mavricks, other applevis resourses etc.  The 
problem is my iMac or voiceover is not listening to my keyboard commands.  I'm 
not stupid, things are not working correctly.  I don't claim to be a genious 
and of course I'm new to the mac but basic navigations that work in text edit 
but not in pages has nothing to do with me pressing wrong keys or being new at 
the mac..  Sorry for ranting but I feel a little disappointed and a little sad 
with some of the people on the list.  I have seen on all the various lists some 
of the same people sending tons of messages on one subject and I never 
complained I just hit delete.  Now after being quiet for 2 years on the list I 
send a few more messages and I'm made to feel worthless, like my only recourse 
is paid lessons or get lost.
Anyhow I appreciate so much your offer and I think between you, joseph, and 
brian we may figure out what the heck is going on, you never know I just might 
be a doorknob after all. 
Zoe

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: November-20-15 10:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: back up failed

Zoey,

I wouldn’t ask you to pay right now for training.  Eventually, being this is my 
job, I’m not going to lie to you, I probably would have to start charging, but 
I’d be absolutely more than happy to at least give you a few lessons for free.  
It’s not something I normally do, admittedly, but given your situation, I’d be 
willing to make a one time exception.

Chris.

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Zoe Fiogkos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much for your patients Sabahattin
> Sitting hear in tears I really appreciate your patients.  Because I can't 
> afford paid lessons right now I guess I'm giving up and going back to windows 
> since obviously I've tired out some people.
> I just wanted to say from the bottom of my heart I won't forget your kindness 
> and name.
> Sincerely
> zoe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu
> Sent: November-20-15 9:12 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: back up failed
> 
> Hi Zoe,
> 
> No.  The USB key really is too slow for a backup device, although it might 
> work for that.  I’m suggesting simply that you ensure that the files you 
> value most dearly are somewhere other than either that Mac or that External 
> hard drive.  That’s all.  Once you’re sure your data is safe, then you may go 
> ahead with wiping, backup, upgrade, and so on.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sabahattin
> 
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