Hi, I've just never liked how, if no scripts exist for something on Windows, it's claimed to be inaccessible. That's why people have review cursors. Use them. That's just my opinion. That, and I don't like the dependency it enforces. Wait, I said that already. Never mind.
The main problem with scripts, of course, is that if you install your screen reader of choice on someone's machine, the scripts will not be there by default. Things will, of course, not work as expected and the owner might not want all kinds of junk on their computer. You won't know how to use Skype in this case, since you have always been dependent on scripts. As is the case with the Mac, you don't need to keep installing scripts if you want something to be accessible at all, though I suppose Windows users could use the review cursors once in a while. I can keep ranting, really, but I'll stop now. :) Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: [email protected] AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > I totally agree with what Nic is saying here. This is especially true when > you find that the keystrokes people referr to are specific to the scripts and > not to the program itself. > /Krister > > 16 nov 2009 kl. 08.04 skrev Nicolai Svendsen: > >> >> Hi, >> >> You don't have to go a long long way to beat independency, though. In truth, >> I prefer the way VoiceOver does it, compared to scripts that have to be >> updated every time the Skype design changes. I found that a pain, and I'm >> glad to be done with scripts overall. They became especially annoying if >> you were used to the keystrokes, but a user did not have them. The scenario >> of using the computer of someone who is sighted comes to mind. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: [email protected] >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Nov 15, 2009, at 9:41 PM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Donal, >>> >>>> you'll have to go a long long way to beat the superb jaws scripts for skype >>> >>> Yes, I agree, JFW support for Skype is pretty awesome. VO is very good >>> though although yes, there are instances where VO makes using certain >>> aspects of Skype like the Chat window cumbersome. >>> >>> TC >>> >>> James >>> On 15 Nov 2009, at 20:01, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Donna, >>>> >>>> Aha so the thorny issue of Skype and VO raises its head again. I have to >>>> admit I don't personally like the usability of skype with VO. Note here >>>> I'm >>>> distinguishing between accessibility and usability. The latest version of >>>> skype on the Mac has provided more accessibility (in that more buttons are >>>> labelled etc) but I just think accessing aspects such as the chat window >>>> are, at best cumbersome, and at worst downright irritating when using VO. >>>> >>>> I must admit that I keep an old battered Dell laptop running, and about the >>>> only thing on it is Skype and Jaws. The reason for this is that I think >>>> you'll have to go a long long way to beat the superb jaws scripts for skype >>>> written by Doug Lee. However, if you need a hand with things mail me off >>>> list. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Dónal >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>> Sent: 15 November 2009 18:46 >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: skype again >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Well, I am back trying to make Skype work, and failing miserably. I'm >>>> starting to think I'm just skype-impaired. :) Is there anyone who'd be >>>> willing to spend some time with me off-list to see if I can get this >>>> working? >>>> Thanks in advance, you can email me at [email protected]. My Skype name is >>>> Donia.Donna, but since I haven't been very successful with it, I'm not >>>> often >>>> logged in. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
