Yeah, I am definitely a fan of the standard way of voiceover interaction.  
Trying the new ways seems weird to me after being used to the standard way for 
so long.
Brian
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone, thanks for the kind words about the upgrade pod cast, glad you 
> enjoyed it.
> el Capitan works well, the only bug I've found is, in finder windows such as 
> the hard drive or your home folder, if you hide the tool bar, that setting 
> does not stick, at least not when using list view. I've tried the new way of 
> not interacting with items such as tool bars, but, honestly I prefer the 
> previous way of handling this. When using the new settings, you have to 
> navigate over every item in a tool bar to get past it, with the standard 
> setting, you can simply skip what you're not interested in. I wasn't sure if 
> system integrity protection would cause any problems, but so far it hasn't 
> been an issue.
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