Sorry if this has been covered before, but what is the "new way?"  I'm still on 
Yosemite as well.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am still on Yosemite. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this new way of 
> interaction simply a choice? If so, that would seem to be the best of all 
> worlds, since people who like it can have it, and those who can't don't have 
> to. I can certainly see times when it would be better to do the new way. And 
> for people coming to the Mac, having to do all that interaction is kind of a 
> pain in the whatever.
> Mary
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>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I am definitely a fan of the standard way of voiceover interaction.  
>> Trying the new ways seems weird to me after being used to the standard way 
>> for so long.
>> Brian
>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey everyone, thanks for the kind words about the upgrade pod cast, glad 
>>> you enjoyed it.
>>> el Capitan works well, the only bug I've found is, in finder windows such 
>>> as the hard drive or your home folder, if you hide the tool bar, that 
>>> setting does not stick, at least not when using list view. I've tried the 
>>> new way of not interacting with items such as tool bars, but, honestly I 
>>> prefer the previous way of handling this. When using the new settings, you 
>>> have to navigate over every item in a tool bar to get past it, with the 
>>> standard setting, you can simply skip what you're not interested in. I 
>>> wasn't sure if system integrity protection would cause any problems, but so 
>>> far it hasn't been an issue.
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