Actually, a good number of the calls going in and out of your country as well as Internet and other data is monitored out of white plains new york.:)
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > Doesn't the NSA watch you guys when your on the John? > > I'm glad I live in the deep south down under, no one really cares about us > other than in rugby > > That's a sport where players don't wear pads or helmets > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 7:41 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search > > You don’t have to sell me about the over reach of Government. I’ve been a > Libertarian since before it was cool.:) > > (ok it still probably isn’t but that’s besides the point) > > You’re absolutely right though. I have worked for telephone companies and > global carriers for years now and I’ll tell you that all the stuff you > mentioned is already done They do listen to every call with complex systems > that preprocess conversations and sort them in to interest / prioritized > piles. Your phone tracks your position. The way you deal with this is > understand what is being done to you, restrict as much as you can and deal > with the political system and your representatives. > > That’s about all you can do. > >> On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Scot, but now imagine that apple looses… just for the sake of the >> discussion… what will be next, our cars? the sat nav? when will it >> stop? >> >> On 2/18/16, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >>> So the EFF is with apple I believe, Google and Facebook, it’s just >>> the media who the government controls and the FBI who want this. >>> >>> Just to add one small correction though, the pin isn’t the key it’s self. >>> So while you’re right about the number of combinations of 4 digits >>> the actual number of combinations is probably more like 2 to the >>> 2048th power combinations. The pin is but a seed / pass phrase >>> component of the key pair. >>> >>> Since it seems most people are on the side of Apple we should all >>> write Apple in support and write our congress persons letting them >>> know we don’t support this intrusion. >>> >>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse >>>> <sandi1...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> so here is the thing, from what i understand and iPhones are not my >>>> favorite subject, but ill try my best. >>>> When you lock your iPhone the key too encrypt it all is on your >>>> phone, apple don't have it anymore, so not even they can unlock the >>>> iPhone, not even if they wanted, if you use a lock code on say 4 >>>> digits, there is 10000 different combinations, and it gets worse >>>> seen form Fbis point of view, because after i believe it is 10 times >>>> wrong passcode, the phone erases it self. >>>> I personally like this feature, not that i have anything interesting >>>> on my phone, but i like the fact that my data is actually secure, >>>> problem is if they find a way to force apple into making something >>>> that works, even if it is just for one iPhone, guess what the next >>>> time the shit hits the fan there will be precedence for having apple >>>> roll their magic again. >>>> And that might be the dangerous part. It seems that google is with >>>> apple on this one at least they sites with them, but have anyone >>>> heard any Ms comments? >>>> >>>> On 2/18/16, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> Michael, >>>>> I urge you to do your own moderating by using that delete key on >>>>> messages that bother you. I had to do that very task hundreds of >>>>> times just this week. And I expect that task is far from over. >>>>> (smiles) >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were >>>>> true? >>>>> >>>>> On 2/18/2016 9:52 AM, Michael Malver wrote: >>>>>> Two questions: >>>>>> 1. Why is this topic any more important for blind users than for >>>>>> any other? That supposition is non-sensical to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Since this topic is apparently on-topic, why couldn't Apple >>>>>> design some sort of tool whereby law enforcement could send a >>>>>> specific device to Apple, who could then take the device apart, >>>>>> and read/decrypt the data, much as one might now do through the >>>>>> removal of a hard rive from a laptop? >>>>>> Asked another way, could something be developed which isn't part >>>>>> of the operating system, but which could helplaw enforcement >>>>>> perform their task? >>>>>> For what it's worth, I think Tim is doing absolutely the right >>>>>> thing. A couple bad Americans shouldn't disrupt the majority of us >>>>>> who deserve incryption and who would not misuse it. >>>>>> I ask the above purely as hypotheticles. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:40 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable >>>>>> search >>>>>> >>>>>> Not to encourage more heavy traffic but this IS an important >>>>>> issue especially for blind users. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it >>>>>> were true? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/18/2016 9:30 AM, Michael Malver wrote: >>>>>>> I have a very important comment: >>>>>>> This topic should be off topic for this list, which deals with >>>>>>> how blind people interact with iPhones. I am not a moderator, but >>>>>>> I hope I am right about this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Scott Granados >>>>>>>> <sc...@qualityip.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against >>>>>>>> being forced to cripple the security on iPhones. 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