Hi Nic, Yes, I was afraid that this was a long shot since it sounded as though you tried all the obvious things. The one thing I would have thought most promising was using NumPad Commander and pressing "5" on a numeric keypad or else using the trackpad button (on a laptop) or a mouse to click on the group name field after routing your mouse cursor there with VO-Command-F5. Since sighted users click on the fields this way, and the NumPad Commander "5" key press seems equivalent to a hardware click, I'd have expected one of those methods to work in the group name field. (I know the new laptops have different trackpads -- I mean pressing the trackpad in those cases to "click").
Cheers, Esther Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Ester, > > I tried out your instructions as well to double-check, but that > didn't seem to do anything at all. I guess it's a good thing I > reported it to Apple, then. I'm definitely having major problems > with it. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: [email protected] > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Tony and Nic, >> >> Tony wrote: >>>>> How on earth can I create groups in adressbook? The problem I have >>>>> is when I created the group from the file menu the name is >>>>> untitled and I can not get it to change to for example Work. >>>>> Any Idea? >> >> I don't know whether there are new problems with creating groups in >> Address Book under Snow Leopard, but here are directions for creating >> groups under Leopard, pasted from a post I made to the mac-access >> list >> back in July. They may not help you, since changing the name of a >> group under Address Book is not a problem under Leopard. If Address >> Book does not simply accept what you type in as a name when you >> create >> the group using the file menu command, under Leopard you can activate >> the edit field by either pressing the return key, the tab key, or by >> routing the mouse cursor to your selection with VO-Command-F5 and >> then >> using VO-Shift-Space to "click" on the group name. Turning on NumPad >> Commander and pressing "5" on the numeric keypad also works to click >> on the group name in the last example. >> >> Anyway, here are the instructions that describe how to use "New Group >> from Selection" and non-contiguous selection. The numbered >> instructions are given after a description of the process. This works >> for Leopard. It would be useful to report back whether any of this >> still works in Snow Leopard. >> >> <begin excerpt> >> Subject: Working with Groups in Address Book [was Re: Importing >> contacts (revisited)] >> >> Date: July 27, 2009 >> >> Hi, >> >> You can create and edit groups similar to the way you can create and >> edit playlists in iTunes. I recently answered a question off-list on >> non-contiguous selection; use that to create your groups. Let's >> assume you have no groups at all and want to create one by selecting >> items from the group named "All" that contains all contacts in your >> Address Book using non-contiguous selection. Turn off cursor >> tracking >> (VO-Shift-F3), use VO-Command-Space to select entries, turn cursor >> tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3), then go to the File menu on the >> Address Book menu bar and select the "New Group from Selection" >> option. Type in the name of the group. Rename groups by double- >> clicking on the group name with VO-Shift-Space (press Control-Option- >> Shift and tap the space bar twice) and typing in the new name. This >> is the same way you rename playlists in iTunes. (Tabbing also seems >> to >> let you enter a new name in a group you created, but I'm finding that >> an annoyance, since I want to use it to navigate to the name table -- >> not use VO-Right arrow.) You can also add entries to the group you >> created with copy and paste. You need to copy from the Name table of >> one group and paste to the Name table of the group you want to add >> to. >> If you want to select multiple rows in sequence to copy, hold down >> the >> Shift key and use your arrow keys. Show selected items with VO-F6. >> For a long list you can lock your VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-Colon) so >> you only need to make selections by pressing Command-Space and check >> your selections by pressing F6. Then unlock your keys by pressing >> semi-colon, turn cursor tracking back on, and navigate to the File >> menu a new group from your selection. The "Last Imported" group must >> be a smart group like the "Recently added" smart playlist in iTunes. >> You could make this a regular (permanent) group for this by first >> creating a new group (Command-Shift-N). Then select "Last Imported" >> in the group table, tab to the Name table and select all (Command-A). >> Copy (Command-C), navigate back to the group table (Shift-Tab), new >> group from your selection with the File menu option (VO-M; press "F"; >> arrow down to "New Group from Selection") >> >> 1. Navigate to the Group table and select "All" >> 2. Tab to the Name table and interact >> 3. Navigate to the first contact name you want to select >> 4. Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3) >> 5. Navigate through the list (e.g. VO-Down Arrow) and add selections >> (VO-Command-Space) >> 6. Optionally check selections with VO-F6 >> 7. Turn cursor tracking back on when done (VO-Shift-F3) >> 8. Create a new group from your selection (VO-M to menu bar; press >> "F" >> for File menu; arrow down to "New Groups from Selection" >> >> Other comments: >> • You can create a new group first using the button below the Group >> Table (VO-Down Arrow) or the shortcut (Command-Shift-N) and then >> paste >> your selection into the Name Table for the group. I was just finding >> it annoying to have to use the VO-arrow keys to navigate between >> tables because pressing tab on a created group always seems to invoke >> the edit field, so I have to VO-Right arrow to the Name table. >> • VO-Command-Space is a toggle action, so you can de-select items >> you've selected by pressing VO-Command-Space as well as select new >> items; then check your selection with VO-F6 >> • Locking VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-Colon) and using Command-Space is >> convenient for long lists. Remember to turn this off when you're done >> by pressing Semi-Colon >> • Remember you can get to the top or bottom of a table with VO-Home >> and VO-End (or VO-Fn-Shift-Left Arrow and Right Arrow on a laptop). >> • It's clear that Address Book isn't in as good shape as iTunes with >> respect to navigation and other options with groups. For example, it >> would be useful to have an option that tells you which groups a given >> contact is listed in and it would be useful if you could copy and >> paste to the group table entry rather than navigating to the >> corresponding name table. >> >> <end excerpt> >> >> HTH >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >> . >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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