Hi, Yeah, that doesn't work either. I've tried all the obvious things. It's really bizarre. I just tried this method when you suggested it. No go.
Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: [email protected] AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Nov 24, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Nic, > > Yes, I was afraid that this was a long shot since it sounded as though > you tried all the obvious things. The one thing I would have thought > most promising was using NumPad Commander and pressing "5" on a > numeric keypad or else using the trackpad button (on a laptop) or a > mouse to click on the group name field after routing your mouse cursor > there with VO-Command-F5. Since sighted users click on the fields > this way, and the NumPad Commander "5" key press seems equivalent to a > hardware click, I'd have expected one of those methods to work in the > group name field. (I know the new laptops have different trackpads -- > I mean pressing the trackpad in those cases to "click"). > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi Ester, >> >> I tried out your instructions as well to double-check, but that >> didn't seem to do anything at all. I guess it's a good thing I >> reported it to Apple, then. I'm definitely having major problems >> with it. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: [email protected] >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Tony and Nic, >>> >>> Tony wrote: >>>>>> How on earth can I create groups in adressbook? The problem I have >>>>>> is when I created the group from the file menu the name is >>>>>> untitled and I can not get it to change to for example Work. >>>>>> Any Idea? >>> >>> I don't know whether there are new problems with creating groups in >>> Address Book under Snow Leopard, but here are directions for creating >>> groups under Leopard, pasted from a post I made to the mac-access >>> list >>> back in July. They may not help you, since changing the name of a >>> group under Address Book is not a problem under Leopard. If Address >>> Book does not simply accept what you type in as a name when you >>> create >>> the group using the file menu command, under Leopard you can activate >>> the edit field by either pressing the return key, the tab key, or by >>> routing the mouse cursor to your selection with VO-Command-F5 and >>> then >>> using VO-Shift-Space to "click" on the group name. Turning on NumPad >>> Commander and pressing "5" on the numeric keypad also works to click >>> on the group name in the last example. >>> >>> Anyway, here are the instructions that describe how to use "New Group >>> from Selection" and non-contiguous selection. The numbered >>> instructions are given after a description of the process. This works >>> for Leopard. It would be useful to report back whether any of this >>> still works in Snow Leopard. >>> >>> <begin excerpt> >>> Subject: Working with Groups in Address Book [was Re: Importing >>> contacts (revisited)] >>> >>> Date: July 27, 2009 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> You can create and edit groups similar to the way you can create and >>> edit playlists in iTunes. I recently answered a question off-list on >>> non-contiguous selection; use that to create your groups. Let's >>> assume you have no groups at all and want to create one by selecting >>> items from the group named "All" that contains all contacts in your >>> Address Book using non-contiguous selection. Turn off cursor >>> tracking >>> (VO-Shift-F3), use VO-Command-Space to select entries, turn cursor >>> tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3), then go to the File menu on the >>> Address Book menu bar and select the "New Group from Selection" >>> option. Type in the name of the group. Rename groups by double- >>> clicking on the group name with VO-Shift-Space (press Control-Option- >>> Shift and tap the space bar twice) and typing in the new name. This >>> is the same way you rename playlists in iTunes. (Tabbing also seems >>> to >>> let you enter a new name in a group you created, but I'm finding that >>> an annoyance, since I want to use it to navigate to the name table -- >>> not use VO-Right arrow.) You can also add entries to the group you >>> created with copy and paste. You need to copy from the Name table of >>> one group and paste to the Name table of the group you want to add >>> to. >>> If you want to select multiple rows in sequence to copy, hold down >>> the >>> Shift key and use your arrow keys. Show selected items with VO-F6. >>> For a long list you can lock your VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-Colon) so >>> you only need to make selections by pressing Command-Space and check >>> your selections by pressing F6. Then unlock your keys by pressing >>> semi-colon, turn cursor tracking back on, and navigate to the File >>> menu a new group from your selection. The "Last Imported" group must >>> be a smart group like the "Recently added" smart playlist in iTunes. >>> You could make this a regular (permanent) group for this by first >>> creating a new group (Command-Shift-N). Then select "Last Imported" >>> in the group table, tab to the Name table and select all (Command-A). >>> Copy (Command-C), navigate back to the group table (Shift-Tab), new >>> group from your selection with the File menu option (VO-M; press "F"; >>> arrow down to "New Group from Selection") >>> >>> 1. Navigate to the Group table and select "All" >>> 2. Tab to the Name table and interact >>> 3. Navigate to the first contact name you want to select >>> 4. Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3) >>> 5. Navigate through the list (e.g. VO-Down Arrow) and add selections >>> (VO-Command-Space) >>> 6. Optionally check selections with VO-F6 >>> 7. Turn cursor tracking back on when done (VO-Shift-F3) >>> 8. Create a new group from your selection (VO-M to menu bar; press >>> "F" >>> for File menu; arrow down to "New Groups from Selection" >>> >>> Other comments: >>> • You can create a new group first using the button below the Group >>> Table (VO-Down Arrow) or the shortcut (Command-Shift-N) and then >>> paste >>> your selection into the Name Table for the group. I was just finding >>> it annoying to have to use the VO-arrow keys to navigate between >>> tables because pressing tab on a created group always seems to invoke >>> the edit field, so I have to VO-Right arrow to the Name table. >>> • VO-Command-Space is a toggle action, so you can de-select items >>> you've selected by pressing VO-Command-Space as well as select new >>> items; then check your selection with VO-F6 >>> • Locking VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-Colon) and using Command-Space is >>> convenient for long lists. Remember to turn this off when you're done >>> by pressing Semi-Colon >>> • Remember you can get to the top or bottom of a table with VO-Home >>> and VO-End (or VO-Fn-Shift-Left Arrow and Right Arrow on a laptop). >>> • It's clear that Address Book isn't in as good shape as iTunes with >>> respect to navigation and other options with groups. For example, it >>> would be useful to have an option that tells you which groups a given >>> contact is listed in and it would be useful if you could copy and >>> paste to the group table entry rather than navigating to the >>> corresponding name table. >>> >>> <end excerpt> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >>> . >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >> . >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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