What I! wanna know, Cara, is how we get presets made, or are they already,
for Synthogy Ivory products, so that I can use the plugins within Logic.
Right now, I only can use 'em within ProTools, which is fine, being that's
where I do 99.9% my work anyway, but that said, it definitely would be nice
to have them in both.
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From: "Cara Quinn" <modelc...@gmail.com>
To: "'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: music gear and accessibility was Re: Question about DJay for
OSX
Hi Scott,
I think this thread is fine. It is Mac-centric as it were, after all. :)
Just to add a bit at what Chris has been saying; Yes, both ProTools and
Logic Pro X are really the best options on Mac at this point.
I own both and also use both with outboard control surfaces / keyboards as
well as external sound modules etc.
I feel that ProTools is definitely more intuitive out of the box but having
said that, certain things are way easier to do with Logic and others are way
easier with ProTools.
So as long as you can afford ProTools I would also suggest that you get
Logic as well or at least try it out so you can judge for yourself.
One difference I have noticed between PT and Logic is that several plugins
seem to be more accessible in Logic than in PT. This does not mean they are
not usable to some degree in PT but they can be quite a bit more so in
Logic.
One example is the M-Tron Pro plugin from G-Force software, which is an
amazingly comprehensive Mellotron (and other trons) sampler plugin.
In Logic all of the editing controls are available with Voiceover whereas in
PT 11 at least, these are not.
Hope this helps a bit and do have a great weekend!
Cheers!
Cara
On May 20, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
Hi Chris, I hope Mark will give us some latitude here but of course if he or
the other mods wish I’d kill the thread no problem.
That said, I’ve found your comments very very helpful.
The last recording system I personally owned was an Alesis ADAT with a
Behringer DDX3216 digital mixer. Had analog controls but the busses and
audio path were all 24 bit 100 KHZ digital. For $900 it sounded really warm
and nice and with the extra add on board I had installed I could do full 5.1
mixes. That being said it was hard to use being blind do to the menus. The
control surfaces were very good with real faders and pots but to work with
the automation or some of your time sync stuff it involved working with an 8
line LCD display. So the more i can do in software on the mac that’s
accessible the better and from what you’re telling me it sounds like Mac
with Protools hands down.
I feel a trip to Caruso Music coming on this weekend. There’s something to
be said growing up 8 miles from one of the largest equipment suppliers.:) I
believe they have a full setup I can get my hands on and I aught to be able
to just hit command F5 on the mac. Any tips for a n00by who hasn’t touched
protools?
Other than the Mac and what sounds like a beautiful midi interface on your
part, have you bothered with much synthesis or sampling gear outside the
application? It sounds like protools does everything for you including the
instrumentation. I think of protools as a direct to disk recording system.
When I was professionally involved with music that’s all it was and it had
other applications you’d run along side like turbo synth or the midi patcher
etc. I guess now I need to think of it as a much more comprehensive music
work station.
Also keeping it on topic. You mentioned it runs on windows. I can’t
imagine running protools on windows. I had a conversation with DigiDesign
back in the day and they swear up and down they would never ever support the
PC. I’m glad to hear it still runs better on the mac but my how times have
changed.
Thank you for taking the time to respond. I hope others who are in the
space will also post what they are working with or maybe there’s a better
mailing list more specific to audio gear I should join.
Thanks Chris
Scott
On May 20, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott,
I'll be really honest with you. You know what I use hardware wise as far
as an interface? I just use a little 4 channel Alesis Multi-Mix 4. Aside
from it having USB interface, the whole rest of the thing is totally
analog. It's absolutely beautiful! And, they're dirt cheap, too! Plus,
as far as accessibility with the mac, just to keep this on topic, there's
nothing to be accessible about it! It just works. I had an M-Audio Fast
Tracks C400, which again was 4 channels, as I recall, but the control
pannel software was totally! inaccessible with Voiceover. I know a lot of
blind people, like Brian Howerton, etc. who really, and I do mean, really!
know their stuff who are using the Focusright Sapphire Pro lineup of
interfaces and flipping swear by them! I've never asked them how
accessible the control pannel configuration utility is for them, although,
I hear that supposedly with Voiceover, it's pretty rock solid.
As for a control surface, obviously, the Apogy is really really killer,
but then, for most average home consumers just getting started, as myself,
who are more low end professionals, it would probably be overkill. Well,
and, plus, they're like, 5 grand, so, ehh, um, werpse? ee yeah. Now,
Digidesign back in the days, made a gorgeous! and I do mean, gorgeous!
interface that also was combined as a control surface, and it's software
was phenominally accessible! That was the Digi03. Oh God! that thing was
sweet! Unfortunately, it's not made anymore. I would freaking kill! for
one a those things though! And, back when they were around, they were
only like, $130 or so. Right now, I'm using a presonus Faderport for the
control surface. In logic, or Reaper, forget it! I never could get the
darn thing to work. I tried and tried, but it just! will, not do it. For
all intense and purpose, the software that comes with it is accessible,
although there really isn't much anything useful in it that you'd really
wanna do. It's mainly just a driver. You can update its firmware, which
is totally Voiceover friendly, but that's about it. I mean, that's about
it, period. I don't mean that's all that is accessible. I'm saying,
that's literally all the software really does, so nothing to really write
home about. It does work though. In ProTools however, this device works
almost, if not totally, perfectly. I think there were maybe one or two
buttons I had to remap, but for the most part, I'd say 99 percent, it
worked right out of the box. I don't even remember initially installing
the driver. You can, yeah, but it's really not necessary.
Anyway, this is kind of very very gradually starting to veer from the
topic of the mac and Voiceover, so let's try to be really careful with
this thread. I don't wanna be the enemy here of allowing it to go OT.
We're not there yet, but I fear it's on its way there. LOL! I think for
now, we're OK, but I'd just be careful, as admittedly, this kind of is a
bit of a grey area.
Chris.
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