Oops! El Capitan is the current OS. I meant to say that 2012 mbp will run Sierra.
Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That 2012 MacBook Pro will run El Capitan Jfyi. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates > Louie P (Pete) Nalda > MySpace.com/musikonalda > Facebook.com/lpnalda > Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > Twitter: @lpnalda > >> On Jun 29, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Simon. >> >> I've had loads of helpful advice from this list today and yes, you are >> right. I'm going to telephone the Apple Store in Glasgow tomorrow and see >> what they may have in refurnished equipment. >> >> I've had so much good advice that it's very difficult. >> >> The guy who gave me the one day training in Glasgow, had a Macbook, which >> had a CD rom on the right hand side. It was perhaps an older machine and >> the keys were lovely and I really liked that particular computer. >> >> I think it was a Macbook pro of 2012-14 era yet I was assured by my trainer >> that it had never caused him any problems in all of that time. >> >> I'd like to identify that model, but failing that, it's looking like a >> second hand Macbook Air. >> >> Very best wishes. >> Andy. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Simon Fogarty >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:50 AM >> Subject: RE: Mac book recommendation please >> >> Andy, >> >> The refurbished devices are a great option, >> >> With one year apple warrenty so you should be covered and the products have >> all been cleaned up and checked to make sure they are up to scratch >> regarding apples quality assurance standards. >> >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy >> Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:43 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please >> >> Hi Scott. >> >> This is exactly the kind of information I've been seeking for some days now >> with no luck. You've gave me a bit to ponder but I'm very atracted to the >> Macbook Air 13 inch with the better keyboard at this time. >> See. Now we are getting somewhare. It's easy for me now to get my mate to >> search on Ebay, though a re-furnished model from the Apple Store may very >> well be worth considering. So a phone call tomorrow is on the cards and who >> knows, I may be able to go for my first training session after next week? >> >> >> Very best wishes. >> Andy. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Scott Granados >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:09 AM >> Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please >> >> Hi Andy, ah that clears it up then. I thought from the original post >> you just needed the laptop for a one time use for training. >> >> There’s a lot of ways to go. >> >> >> The air is the thinnest model. It has a real keyboard with discrete keys. >> The spread between the keys is surprisingly good especially for the size. >> I’d go with the larger 13 inch model for more hand room. >> >> Let me try to clear up some of the confusion on the different models. >> >> The Macbook is the least powerful version. It uses a mobile processor and >> probably isn’t for you in that it is very under powered. I’m not sure what >> Apple was thinking market wise with this device but if I were you I’d skip >> it. >> >> The Air is a nice super thin model. Would be great for your traveling and >> fits nicely in a bag or you can get it a nice hard shell covering. It’s >> maybe a quarter inch thick, has great battery life and you can get an I5 or >> I7 model depending on your processing needs. This model has been around a >> while so you may also buy previous years versions or on the second hand >> market to save some extra money. >> >> Then you have the pro of where there are two types, the 13 inch an 15 inch. >> Other than screen size difference the 15 inch model can have more processing >> power. >> >> About processing power, I know that can be confusing. Typically with Apple >> you’re dealing with either an I5 or I7. These are Intel processors where >> think of the number as a grade or class. A 7 is a more powerful processor >> than a 5. >> When you hear the word cores mentioned, processors now have more than one >> physical processing component or core on a single piece of silicon. So in >> one slot you may actually have 2 or 4 processors in the case of Apple or >> other devices 12 or more cores or processors per slot. The more cores means >> more processing units to bring to bare on your tasks. The way these get >> assigned and used is way outside the scope here and I don’t want to confuse >> you worse. Just as a general rule the more cores and better quality >> processor the better for performance. You need to decide whether you want >> to spend more or less here. >> >> The 13 inch and 15 inch pros have been around a good long while so you have >> lots of previous year options if you want to save some money and you can >> also go with a factory refurbished option direct from Apple. Again you can >> speak to your budget needs best. >> >> The 15 inch model has a bit better graphics card, obviously slightly larger >> screen and all models of the pro have a very good keyboard. Feels a lot >> like the air but with a little more throw on the keys but not enough to >> drastically impact your experience I don’t think. >> >> The best thing I could suggest is if you can have a feel of the units. I >> don’t know what your computer buying options are in Scotland but here in the >> states we have stores where they are all set up to touch and type on. I >> know you have an Apple store there but you may have another store >> geographically closer to you for convenience. >> >> If I were you I’d go with the air for portability reasons if you like to >> travel a lot or if you feel you need a lot of horsepower in a mobile package >> the 13 inch pro should have more than enough juice. If you want to go top >> of the line and spend spend spend go 15 inch but I’m not sure you’ll gain a >> lot of functionality for the money. I’m an engineer, use the heck out of my >> laptop and a 13 inch model did me just fine. >> >> The Mini isn’t for you if you want to travel. It’s still a desktop so >> you’ll be carrying a separate monitor, keyboard, the associated cables and >> the mini itself. If you want a decent home desktop or media server type >> deal the Mini is a decent option. If you want to travel though I’d take >> that off your list. >> >> Let me know if I can help any further. >> >> Good luck with your travels and apple purchase. >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> Oh Scott. >> >> I do need a portable device because I'm going on a 14 day hotel trip later >> this year to train with my new dog, and I simply could not stand being stuck >> in a hotel room with nothing. Also, I'm hoping to have a holiday later this >> year if I can get the dog out of the way firstly, so again, I need something >> to keep me in contact with civilasation . In addition, I think it would be >> quite nice to go to my local pub and sit there doing my email and other >> things, so hiring a mac book is no good. >> >> You recommend a Macbook Air. Does that have a tactyle keyboard or is there >> perhaps something better to consider? >> >> Very best wishes. >> Andy. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Scott Granados >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:45 PM >> Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please >> >> Hi Andy, >> >> Depends on what you want to do. A Macbook Air would be a fine option >> especially for a secondary machine. Probably low enough on the cost >> especially on the second hand market. >> >> A pro will give you more horse power but if you already have that IMac I >> think you’re probably in good shape. >> >> Here’s a whacky idea, what about renting a Macbook Pro for a few days for >> the training and then going back to your iMac when you’re done. Less >> expensive and you don’t end up with hardware you don’t sound like you need. >> >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> Hi all. >> >> I have just purchased an imac desk-top computer but in order for me to >> undergo one-to-one training in my area, I need to buy a second hand portable >> device. >> >> Once I have a recomendation, a friend can have a look on Ebay. >> >> I'd like a mac lap-top and if possible, running El Capitan. >> >> My sense of touch is very poor so I need a mac book with a pretty good >> keyboard on it. I could attach the Apple USB keyboard if necessary, but >> that's another bit of equipment to carry. >> >> So should I buy a second hand Mac book pro: a Mac book or something similar? >> >> Your advise would be very welcome as I'm just dying to take up this training >> opertunity. >> >> Very best wishes. >> Andy. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - 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