Hi Andy, My first mac book was a mac book pro 13 inch from late 2009 I know for a fact it is still being used today by the person that purchased it off me. They are a really good work horse and I got another last year which had a crack in the screan that I put a 500 GB ssd and 16 gig of ram in to and apart from the weight it works like a mac book air with speed and reliability
If you are looking at refurbished mac books from apple then you know your getting a decent deal as it comes with a 12 month warrenty as well as having been gone over with a fine tooth comb. I wouldn’t turn my nose up to a mac book air, the one I have is a great machine Good luck and hope you find something you like. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2016 4:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please Hi Simon. I've had loads of helpful advice from this list today and yes, you are right. I'm going to telephone the Apple Store in Glasgow tomorrow and see what they may have in refurnished equipment. I've had so much good advice that it's very difficult. The guy who gave me the one day training in Glasgow, had a Macbook, which had a CD rom on the right hand side. It was perhaps an older machine and the keys were lovely and I really liked that particular computer. I think it was a Macbook pro of 2012-14 era yet I was assured by my trainer that it had never caused him any problems in all of that time. I'd like to identify that model, but failing that, it's looking like a second hand Macbook Air. Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Fogarty<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:50 AM Subject: RE: Mac book recommendation please Andy, The refurbished devices are a great option, With one year apple warrenty so you should be covered and the products have all been cleaned up and checked to make sure they are up to scratch regarding apples quality assurance standards. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:43 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please Hi Scott. This is exactly the kind of information I've been seeking for some days now with no luck. You've gave me a bit to ponder but I'm very atracted to the Macbook Air 13 inch with the better keyboard at this time. See. Now we are getting somewhare. It's easy for me now to get my mate to search on Ebay, though a re-furnished model from the Apple Store may very well be worth considering. So a phone call tomorrow is on the cards and who knows, I may be able to go for my first training session after next week? Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Granados<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:09 AM Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please Hi Andy, ah that clears it up then. I thought from the original post you just needed the laptop for a one time use for training. There’s a lot of ways to go. The air is the thinnest model. It has a real keyboard with discrete keys. The spread between the keys is surprisingly good especially for the size. I’d go with the larger 13 inch model for more hand room. Let me try to clear up some of the confusion on the different models. The Macbook is the least powerful version. It uses a mobile processor and probably isn’t for you in that it is very under powered. I’m not sure what Apple was thinking market wise with this device but if I were you I’d skip it. The Air is a nice super thin model. Would be great for your traveling and fits nicely in a bag or you can get it a nice hard shell covering. It’s maybe a quarter inch thick, has great battery life and you can get an I5 or I7 model depending on your processing needs. This model has been around a while so you may also buy previous years versions or on the second hand market to save some extra money. Then you have the pro of where there are two types, the 13 inch an 15 inch. Other than screen size difference the 15 inch model can have more processing power. About processing power, I know that can be confusing. Typically with Apple you’re dealing with either an I5 or I7. These are Intel processors where think of the number as a grade or class. A 7 is a more powerful processor than a 5. When you hear the word cores mentioned, processors now have more than one physical processing component or core on a single piece of silicon. So in one slot you may actually have 2 or 4 processors in the case of Apple or other devices 12 or more cores or processors per slot. The more cores means more processing units to bring to bare on your tasks. The way these get assigned and used is way outside the scope here and I don’t want to confuse you worse. Just as a general rule the more cores and better quality processor the better for performance. You need to decide whether you want to spend more or less here. The 13 inch and 15 inch pros have been around a good long while so you have lots of previous year options if you want to save some money and you can also go with a factory refurbished option direct from Apple. Again you can speak to your budget needs best. The 15 inch model has a bit better graphics card, obviously slightly larger screen and all models of the pro have a very good keyboard. Feels a lot like the air but with a little more throw on the keys but not enough to drastically impact your experience I don’t think. The best thing I could suggest is if you can have a feel of the units. I don’t know what your computer buying options are in Scotland but here in the states we have stores where they are all set up to touch and type on. I know you have an Apple store there but you may have another store geographically closer to you for convenience. If I were you I’d go with the air for portability reasons if you like to travel a lot or if you feel you need a lot of horsepower in a mobile package the 13 inch pro should have more than enough juice. If you want to go top of the line and spend spend spend go 15 inch but I’m not sure you’ll gain a lot of functionality for the money. I’m an engineer, use the heck out of my laptop and a 13 inch model did me just fine. The Mini isn’t for you if you want to travel. It’s still a desktop so you’ll be carrying a separate monitor, keyboard, the associated cables and the mini itself. If you want a decent home desktop or media server type deal the Mini is a decent option. If you want to travel though I’d take that off your list. Let me know if I can help any further. Good luck with your travels and apple purchase. On Jun 28, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Andy <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Oh Scott. I do need a portable device because I'm going on a 14 day hotel trip later this year to train with my new dog, and I simply could not stand being stuck in a hotel room with nothing. Also, I'm hoping to have a holiday later this year if I can get the dog out of the way firstly, so again, I need something to keep me in contact with civilasation . In addition, I think it would be quite nice to go to my local pub and sit there doing my email and other things, so hiring a mac book is no good. You recommend a Macbook Air. Does that have a tactyle keyboard or is there perhaps something better to consider? Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Granados<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:45 PM Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please Hi Andy, Depends on what you want to do. A Macbook Air would be a fine option especially for a secondary machine. Probably low enough on the cost especially on the second hand market. A pro will give you more horse power but if you already have that IMac I think you’re probably in good shape. Here’s a whacky idea, what about renting a Macbook Pro for a few days for the training and then going back to your iMac when you’re done. Less expensive and you don’t end up with hardware you don’t sound like you need. On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Andy <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi all. I have just purchased an imac desk-top computer but in order for me to undergo one-to-one training in my area, I need to buy a second hand portable device. Once I have a recomendation, a friend can have a look on Ebay. I'd like a mac lap-top and if possible, running El Capitan. My sense of touch is very poor so I need a mac book with a pretty good keyboard on it. I could attach the Apple USB keyboard if necessary, but that's another bit of equipment to carry. 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