Hi Scott and Simon.

Here it is at last from the horses mouth.

Thats a MacBook Pro with CD drive the newer models don’t have CD drives.
So the details ar:
MacBook Pro 13inch late 2011 model.
processor: 2.4Ghz Intel Core i5
Memory: 4Gb  


If you get one cheap you can upgrade the memory etc at minimum cost.
Let me know how you get on.

These are the words of the guy who is offering me free one-to-one training and 
that's the computer he uses for training at his office in Glasgow.

Late 2011 would seem to me as quite elderly and if these computers are still 
available, will be cheeper than the £625 that the Apple store are wanting for a 
2015 13 inch Macbook Air.

What do you think guys.  Should I get my other friend to see if he can pick one 
up on Ebay or is it perhaps too old, being late 2011?

Very best wishes.
Andy.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Granados 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please


  Hi Simon, 500 pounds is about what 700 US?  Do you think that’s enough to get 
in the door with Apple directly?  Sounds a little thin especially when you 
consider the additional costs over seas but I may be wrong.


  BTW, if Andy can get better deals with in the US with US dollars from Apple 
I’d be happy to be a proxy for that transaction and for no charge other than 
the cost of the unit and shipping.  Just an idea if there are any excessive 
import charges or anything.   Also, as Andy mentioned, Ebay may be a very good 
option.  I don’t know how popular craigslist is in the UK but here it’s very 
popular and lots of Mac products can be had for a deep discount if you know 
what you’re looking for.


  Either way, hope all works out well.


  Let me know if I can be of help.


    On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:55 AM, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:


    Hi Andy,

    500 pounds is a lot of cash,
    If you have access to a computer that your comfortable surfing the net 
with, I’d suggest having a look at the apple website for the uk and see what 
they have in the way of refurbished devices.

    500 pounds might be enough to get a refurbished mac book air I find the 11 
inch great, same keyboard processor ram and ssd as the 13 inch just smaller 
screan size.

    Good luck and hey if you don’t buy or find one now, then you have time to 
save more for another day and the more you have can always be a good thing.


    From: 
[email protected][mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Andy
    Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2016 4:54 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please

    Hi Symon.

    I think I should be able to put my hands on £500, if I tighten my belt a 
little more.  So do you think that a refurnished Macbook from the Apple store 
would be possible or do I need to save a little more?

    I'm looking for a computer that is tactyle and is running El Capitan, so 
herhaps I may have just enough.

    Once I talk to Apple tomorrow, I'll get back to all and I'll, hopefully, be 
a happy chappy.

    Very best wishes.
    Andy.
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Simon Fogarty
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:45 AM
      Subject: RE: Mac book recommendation please

      Hi Andy,

        Mac book air second hand,
      When you say second hand, how old are we talking?

      This could be the difference between using up to date OS and not.

      Also do you know much about it as in specs and condition of it?

      And as for what scott said, anything we can do to assist via facetime etc 
just ask

      Chers,


      Simon f

      From: 
[email protected][mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Andy
      Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:31 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please

      Hi again Scott.

      Thanks for the offer my friend.  Face-time was one of the main 
attractions for me to buy an Imac.  I'm very much hoping to  be able to talk to 
my wee sister in Canada soon, via my Imac and face-time.  But alass Scott.  I'm 
still right on square one!  I can just about turn my Imac on! It will be months 
before I can use Skype or Face-time. 

      This is why I'm really keen on taking up this training offer in Glasgow.  
All of my friends here, who are sighted, are Windows users.  So I'm out there 
on my own on a limb and despite everything Scott.  I wouldn't have it any other 
way.  It's up to us blind guys to embarras our sighted friends to getting off 
their bums and do something, hahaha.

      But it would be really nice if I had an Apple friend or at least anyone 
who had some understanding of my Imac!

      But in the meantime, I've got this offer of training and it's looking so 
far that the Macbook Air, second-hand, will be my best bet to help me through 
the training.


      Very best wishes.
      Andy.
        ----- Original Message f-----
        From: Scott Granados
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:12 AM
        Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please

        Andy, if it’s easier for you to have a quick question and answer 
session so you can gain more information faster I’d be more than happy to Skype 
/ FaceTime / call you on the land line and help you work through your buying 
decision.

        That’s if your pressed for time.  Let me know if I can be of any help.

          On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

          Hi Kimber.

          Thank goodness someone at last understood my request.  Yes, the 
keyboard is very important to me  as I've very poor sense of touch.

          I've been reading up on the Macbook, the Macbook pro, the Macbook 
mini and the Macbook Air and I'm completely lost and even more confused.

          So, it's nice to have your recommendation and I'm feeling that I'm at 
last getting some responce to my enquiries.

          You see, I have no experience at all of Apple products.  All of the 
Mac's I mentioned above.  I've never ever seen or touched on and all of my 
friends are Windows, so I'm in a fix.

          So thanks again for your responce.  It's getting me thinking.

          Very best wishes.
          Andy.
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Kimberly
            To: [email protected]
            Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:01 PM
            Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please

            The Mac air keyboard is quite good. The keys are full size and have 
a nice firmness when typing.

            Sent from Kimber's iPhone

            On Jun 28, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Andy <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              Oh Scott.

              I do need a portable device because I'm going on a 14 day hotel 
trip later this year to train with my new dog, and I simply could not stand 
being stuck in a hotel room with nothing.  Also, I'm hoping to have a holiday 
later this year if I can get the dog out of the way firstly, so again, I need 
something to keep me in contact with civilasation .  In addition, I think it 
would be quite nice to go to my local pub and sit there doing my email and 
other things, so hiring a mac book is no good.

              You recommend a Macbook Air.  Does that have a tactyle keyboard 
or is there perhaps something better to consider?

              Very best wishes.
              Andy.



              ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Scott Granados
                To: [email protected]
                Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:45 PM
                Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please

                Hi Andy, 

                Depends on what you want to do.  A Macbook Air would be a fine 
option especially for a secondary machine.  Probably low enough on the cost 
especially on the second hand market.

                A pro will give you more horse power but if you already have 
that IMac I think you’re probably in good shape.

                Here’s a whacky idea, what about renting a Macbook Pro for a 
few days for the training and then going back to your iMac when you’re done.  
Less expensive and you don’t end up with hardware you don’t sound like you need.

                  On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Andy 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  Hi all.

                  I have just purchased an imac desk-top computer but in order 
for me to undergo one-to-one training in my area, I need to buy a second hand 
portable device.

                  Once I have a recomendation, a friend can have a look on Ebay.

                  I'd like a mac lap-top and if possible, running El Capitan.

                  My sense of touch is very poor so I need a mac book with a 
pretty good keyboard on it.  I could attach the Apple USB keyboard if 
necessary, but that's another bit of equipment to carry.

                  So should I buy a second hand Mac book pro:  a Mac book or 
something similar?

                  Your advise would be very welcome as I'm just dying to take 
up this training opertunity.

                  Very best wishes.
                  Andy.

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