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On 7/1/2016 6:20 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Yes about a third the price for same ram but not through apple. Go figure Can't get over how apple increase pricing that much. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2016 12:40 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac book recommendation please I’ve got a 32 GB crucial kit in my 2011. Totally unapproved by apple but works none the less. The last thing they wanted was you buying your own ram for a 3rd or even deeper a discount than the Apple pricing.On Jul 1, 2016, at 5:44 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: Unless that 32gigs is unofficial, the max is 16 on the mid 2012 MBP according to Crucial. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 7/1/2016 4:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:Simon, FYI, you can go up to 32 GB on the 2011 - 12 models. Crucial and I think Kingston make 1 for 1 replacement modules and the OS recognizes 32 GB just fine. Sucks you can’t do this on the late model hardware. I’d love to have more than 16GB and it bothers me Apple forces you to that limit because you can’t upgrade your own ram.On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: , I know this is late to you but a 2011 mac book pro isn’t a bad machine, It will take up to 16 gig of ram and with a dvd drive you could take the hard drive out and put in an SSD, I did this recently with a similar model I think it was a 2013 version of same size etc. The machine was then working like a mac book air for speed but weight was twice the size still bloody light compared to some windows machines. As for the 2015 mac book air for 625, Depending on what your wanting to spend, I would go the mac book air. Lighter, faster unless you modify the harddrive and ram, but Probably not as much storage space The MBA also has wifi AC and USB 3 and thunderbolt where as the 2011 mac book pro has 2 USB 2, possibly 3 but I don’t think so. Firewire 800 and 400, mini display port and possibly SD slot And a bigger screan, I personally would look at the mac book air but that is me. Oh check the harddrive storage space in the mac book air, see how it matchs up to the mac book pro. Good luck. *From:* m andacvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:andacvisionar...@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@goo glegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy *Sent:* Friday, 1 July 2016 7:48 AM *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Mac book recommendation please Hi Scott and Simon. Here it is at last from the horses mouth. Thats a MacBook Pro with CD drive the newer models don’t have CD drives. So the details ar: MacBook Pro 13inch late 2011 model. processor: 2.4Ghz Intel Core i5 Memory: 4Gb If you get one cheap you can upgrade the memory etc at minimum cost. Let me know how you get on. These are the words of the guy who is offering me free one-to-one training and that's the computer he uses for training at his office in Glasgow. Late 2011 would seem to me as quite elderly and if these computers are still available, will be cheeper than the £625 that the Apple store are wanting for a 2015 13 inch Macbook Air. What do you think guys. Should I get my other friend to see if he can pick one up on Ebay or is it perhaps too old, being late 2011? Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Scott Granados <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2016 12:21 PM *Subject:* Re: Mac book recommendation please Hi Simon, 500 pounds is about what 700 US? Do you think that’s enough to get in the door with Apple directly? Sounds a little thin especially when you consider the additional costs over seas but I may be wrong. BTW, if Andy can get better deals with in the US with US dollars from Apple I’d be happy to be a proxy for that transaction and for no charge other than the cost of the unit and shipping. Just an idea if there are any excessive import charges or anything. Also, as Andy mentioned, Ebay may be a very good option. I don’t know how popular craigslist is in the UK but here it’s very popular and lots of Mac products can be had for a deep discount if you know what you’re looking for. Either way, hope all works out well. Let me know if I can be of help. On Jun 30, 2016, at 6:55 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: Hi Andy, 500 pounds is a lot of cash, If you have access to a computer that your comfortable surfing the net with, I’d suggest having a look at the apple website for the uk and see what they have in the way of refurbished devices. 500 pounds might be enough to get a refurbished mac book air I find the 11 inch great, same keyboard processor ram and ssd as the 13 inch just smaller screan size. Good luck and hey if you don’t buy or find one now, then you have time to save more for another day and the more you have can always be a good thing. *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy *Sent:* Thursday, 30 June 2016 4:54 AM *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Mac book recommendation please Hi Symon. I think I should be able to put my hands on £500, if I tighten my belt a little more. So do you think that a refurnished Macbook from the Apple store would be possible or do I need to save a little more? I'm looking for a computer that is tactyle and is running El Capitan, so herhaps I may have just enough. Once I talk to Apple tomorrow, I'll get back to all and I'll, hopefully, be a happy chappy. Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Simon Fogarty <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 29, 2016 10:45 AM *Subject:* RE: Mac book recommendation please Hi Andy, Mac book air second hand, When you say second hand, how old are we talking? This could be the difference between using up to date OS and not. Also do you know much about it as in specs and condition of it? And as for what scott said, anything we can do to assist via facetime etc just ask Chers, Simon f *From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 June 2016 11:31 AM *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Mac book recommendation please Hi again Scott. Thanks for the offer my friend. Face-time was one of the main attractions for me to buy an Imac. I'm very much hoping to be able to talk to my wee sister in Canada soon, via my Imac and face-time. But alass Scott. I'm still right on square one! I can just about turn my Imac on! It will be months before I can use Skype or Face-time. This is why I'm really keen on taking up this training offer in Glasgow. All of my friends here, who are sighted, are Windows users. So I'm out there on my own on a limb and despite everything Scott. I wouldn't have it any other way. It's up to us blind guys to embarras our sighted friends to getting off their bums and do something, hahaha. But it would be really nice if I had an Apple friend or at least anyone who had some understanding of my Imac! But in the meantime, I've got this offer of training and it's looking so far that the Macbook Air, second-hand, will be my best bet to help me through the training. Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message f----- *From:* Scott Granados <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:12 AM *Subject:* Re: Mac book recommendation please Andy, if it’s easier for you to have a quick question and answer session so you can gain more information faster I’d be more than happy to Skype / FaceTime / call you on the land line and help you work through your buying decision. That’s if your pressed for time. Let me know if I can be of any help. On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com <mailto:meikle.ai...@btinternet.com>> wrote: Hi Kimber. Thank goodness someone at last understood my request. Yes, the keyboard is very important to me as I've very poor sense of touch. I've been reading up on the Macbook, the Macbook pro, the Macbook mini and the Macbook Air and I'm completely lost and even more confused. So, it's nice to have your recommendation and I'm feeling that I'm at last getting some responce to my enquiries. You see, I have no experience at all of Apple products. All of the Mac's I mentioned above. I've never ever seen or touched on and all of my friends are Windows, so I'm in a fix. So thanks again for your responce. It's getting me thinking. Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Kimberly <mailto:kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:01 PM *Subject:* Re: Mac book recommendation please The Mac air keyboard is quite good. The keys are full size and have a nice firmness when typing. Sent from Kimber's iPhone On Jun 28, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com <mailto:meikle.ai...@btinternet.com>> wrote: Oh Scott. I do need a portable device because I'm going on a 14 day hotel trip later this year to train with my new dog, and I simply could not stand being stuck in a hotel room with nothing. Also, I'm hoping to have a holiday later this year if I can get the dog out of the way firstly, so again, I need something to keep me in contact with civilasation . In addition, I think it would be quite nice to go to my local pub and sit there doing my email and other things, so hiring a mac book is no good. You recommend a Macbook Air. Does that have a tactyle keyboard or is there perhaps something better to consider? Very best wishes. Andy. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Scott Granados <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:45 PM *Subject:* Re: Mac book recommendation please Hi Andy, Depends on what you want to do. A Macbook Air would be a fine option especially for a secondary machine. Probably low enough on the cost especially on the second hand market. A pro will give you more horse power but if you already have that IMac I think you’re probably in good shape. Here’s a whacky idea, what about renting a Macbook Pro for a few days for the training and then going back to your iMac when you’re done. Less expensive and you don’t end up with hardware you don’t sound like you need. On Jun 28, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com <mailto:meikle.ai...@btinternet.com>> wrote: Hi all. I have just purchased an imac desk-top computer but in order for me to undergo one-to-one training in my area, I need to buy a second hand portable device. Once I have a recomendation, a friend can have a look on Ebay. I'd like a mac lap-top and if possible, running El Capitan. My sense of touch is very poor so I need a mac book with a pretty good keyboard on it. I could attach the Apple USB keyboard if necessary, but that's another bit of equipment to carry. So should I buy a second hand Mac book pro: a Mac book or something similar? Your advise would be very welcome as I'm just dying to take up this training opertunity. Very best wishes. Andy. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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