I have a question his virtual box usable with voiceover in any way, shape, or 
form? From the very little bit of research that I’ve done on this issue 
previously it was thought that virtual box is completely unusable with 
voiceover, this is still the conventional wisdom? Thank you in advance for your 
time, and eventual response to my question.

Sincerely Maurice mines.
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>  Jul 12, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I guess we should take this off the MV list, but perhaps the person that did 
> my installations did not include the voice packages?  I know very little of 
> Linux, having BSD UNIX and Solaris (Unix System V based as my primary Unix 
> variants. I know a significant number of the tools in Linux are based on GNU 
> tools found in MacOS and a bit more like BSD UnIX than System 
> 
> I certainly want to get back to using Emacs which was my primary editor in my 
> sighted days. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
> ) )
> 
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:00 PM Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
> Did you hold down the shift key?
> 
> Also, how long did you wait after the drums?
> 
> Would be happy to give it a host.  I’ve successfully done this with the stock 
> Ubuntu install.
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I tried your instructions, I hear the drumbeat. But then I do not get any 
>> speech. Do you have any ideas?
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:43 AM Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>> All you do is boot holding the shift key down, you hear a drumbeat deal and 
>> then speech starts.  
>> 
>> Should be relatively straight forward.
>>  
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 7:22 AM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com 
>>> <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm, how were you able to boot with speech? I didn’t think much of trying 
>>> the mainstream distros, since I’ve heard that Unity isn’t accessible mostly.
>>> Sent from my Mac.
>>> 
>>> Devin Prater
>>> d.pra...@me.com <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How did you try to install it under VMWare?
>>>> 
>>>> One thing I had excellent luck with was Ubuntu under vmware fusion.  You 
>>>> can install it and boot with speech and you pretty much use the normal 
>>>> image creation tool, select the image, enter the type of Linux and give it 
>>>> a few minutes to build a VM.
>>>> 
>>>> That might be something to try.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com 
>>>>> <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all. So on my path to learning Linux stuff, I’ve gotten Emacspeak to 
>>>>> work with the help of Twitter folks, but now wanna see if Linux will be 
>>>>> useful to me as a whole. I’ve gotten Fedora working, sort of, but there 
>>>>> aren’t any blind-specific packages that I see on other Linux lists, so I 
>>>>> now turn to Sonar. I’ve had VmWare Fusion for a while now, but using 
>>>>> Sonar with it just fails after installation, nothing happens. So I got 
>>>>> Virtual Box in order to play with an Android talking virtual machine, 
>>>>> which stopped talking after updating talkback, and found that besides 
>>>>> freezes, probably from it being Android, ported to x86 architecture, it 
>>>>> ran pretty quickly and responsively, unlike VmWare unless you tweet 
>>>>> settings in VMX files. So, are there any tips for more easily using 
>>>>> Virtual Box, like adding iOS files to virtual machines and running them, 
>>>>> when I tried it didn’t work, or anyone that has a Sonar Virtual machine 
>>>>> that works in Virtual box, or VmWare somehow?
>>>>> Sent from my Mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Devin Prater
>>>>> d.pra...@me.com <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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