That’s a bit of yes and no.

Yes it is useable if you are using OSX Yosemite or elcapitan with the vb 
version 5 upwards,
But before that voiceover will crash when you move to the VM application.

I have to use this on a daily basis for work and I find if I need to flick 
backwards and forward I have to keep turning vo on because it’s crashed due to 
us using VB 4.3.x  which allows me to use a Jaws USB authorisation key

Vb version 5 wouldn’t pick up on the USB device for some reason,

This may be fixed now but I haven’t tried to findout

Hope this helps.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of maurice.mines
Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2016 10:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: semi-ot: Sonar virtual machines and dealing with virtual box

I have a question his virtual box usable with voiceover in any way, shape, or 
form? From the very little bit of research that I’ve done on this issue 
previously it was thought that virtual box is completely unusable with 
voiceover, this is still the conventional wisdom? Thank you in advance for your 
time, and eventual response to my question.

Sincerely Maurice mines.
FH phone, 360-524-9331.
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note the text of my comments have been dictated to the computer by using Dragon 
version 5 for Mac OS, if there’s something in the text of my comments that you 
did not fully understand, this is due largely to either the software or the 
dictation process. If you truly don’t understand, and wish for me to clarify 
what I have written, please just let me know? I will do my very best to clear 
up any misunderstandings.
 Jul 12, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Jonathan Cohn 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Scott,

I guess we should take this off the MV list, but perhaps the person that did my 
installations did not include the voice packages?  I know very little of Linux, 
having BSD UNIX and Solaris (Unix System V based as my primary Unix variants. I 
know a significant number of the tools in Linux are based on GNU tools found in 
MacOS and a bit more like BSD UnIX than System

I certainly want to get back to using Emacs which was my primary editor in my 
sighted days.

Thanks,
Jonathan
) )

On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 10:00 PM Scott Granados 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Did you hold down the shift key?

Also, how long did you wait after the drums?

Would be happy to give it a host.  I’ve successfully done this with the stock 
Ubuntu install.

On Jul 6, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I tried your instructions, I hear the drumbeat. But then I do not get any 
speech. Do you have any ideas?
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:43 AM Scott Granados 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
All you do is boot holding the shift key down, you hear a drumbeat deal and 
then speech starts.

Should be relatively straight forward.


On Jul 1, 2016, at 7:22 AM, Devin Prater 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hmm, how were you able to boot with speech? I didn’t think much of trying the 
mainstream distros, since I’ve heard that Unity isn’t accessible mostly.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>



On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Scott Granados 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

How did you try to install it under VMWare?

One thing I had excellent luck with was Ubuntu under vmware fusion.  You can 
install it and boot with speech and you pretty much use the normal image 
creation tool, select the image, enter the type of Linux and give it a few 
minutes to build a VM.

That might be something to try.

On Jul 1, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Devin Prater 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi all. So on my path to learning Linux stuff, I’ve gotten Emacspeak to work 
with the help of Twitter folks, but now wanna see if Linux will be useful to me 
as a whole. I’ve gotten Fedora working, sort of, but there aren’t any 
blind-specific packages that I see on other Linux lists, so I now turn to 
Sonar. I’ve had VmWare Fusion for a while now, but using Sonar with it just 
fails after installation, nothing happens. So I got Virtual Box in order to 
play with an Android talking virtual machine, which stopped talking after 
updating talkback, and found that besides freezes, probably from it being 
Android, ported to x86 architecture, it ran pretty quickly and responsively, 
unlike VmWare unless you tweet settings in VMX files. So, are there any tips 
for more easily using Virtual Box, like adding iOS files to virtual machines 
and running them, when I tried it didn’t work, or anyone that has a Sonar 
Virtual machine that works in Virtual box, or VmWare somehow?
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
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