Hi Mary, I’m not a hearing aid user but surely the adaptor is going to allow them to use the aids with the phone?
However what's going to happen when your using the adaptor plugged in to the lightening port and you have your headphones plugged in to the adaptor also and then you want to charge your device? Will the adaptor have a second lightening port to allow for charging while using? -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, 2 September 2016 4:42 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven Well, just to be clear, I personally would be against this move, if it means that they' very large hard of hearing community can't use hearing aids on iPhones anymore. That seems like such an incredibly stupid move on Apple's part, that I am tempted to just believe that they wouldn't do it if they didn't have a workaround that would work for people who use hearing aids. The hard of hearing community is orders of magnitude larger then the blind community. So Shirley, this adapter must be providing someway for people who use hearing aids to keep on doing so. What am I missing here? I remember sometime ago, when the idea that the headphone jack would go away first came out, Jonathan wrote a very impassioned piece on this subject, arguing that this was a very bad idea because of the use case of hearing aids. Now Apple is going to do it anyway, but they're offering an adapter. Why doesn't that solve the problem? I understand why Bluetooth is not a good alternative, given Jonathan's comments on battery drain and the well-known problem for voiceover users with latency. It's still really bad, at least on my phone with my Plantronics legend. I would not want to have to type on that system for anything more than a word or two, because the latency between when you touch a letter and when you hear it is much too long. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > Mary, you’re exactly right and points well stated as always. Here’s another > point to consider, suppose we add wireless charging. Now, you could have a > brick with no ports what so ever formed from one solid piece of material. > You could almost grow the casing and have a super durable waterproof phone > with no openings at all. The entire surface could be a screen. Not needing > ports is a good thing over all. > > > >> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Mark, >> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the >> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage >> card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the >> other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new >> phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other >> headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the >> headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device >> makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In >> fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a headphone jack on >> the phone. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the >>> new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack. >>> >>> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the >>> removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to >>> its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, >>> effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept >>> those features. >>> >>> A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS >>> devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon >>> attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed >>> to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in >>> order to manage photos. >>> >>> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature >>> in the subsequent release of iTunes. >>> >>> So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells >>> me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM >>> To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List >>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the >>> iPhone seven >>> >>> When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first >>> appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so >>> potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the >>> iPhone 7. 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