From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 9/15/2016 6:39 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
No. Disregarding working, intuitive practice for fluffy, legacy emulation is not progress. Tell that to the galactic Oogy Buggy. This is a marketing problem. If it isn't what I like or can use, it's a marketing issue. Tell that to the Galactic Trader's Alliance. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2016, at 18:30, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:Change is counterproductive? Perhaps to some who have a hard time adapting to change. But, at the end of each day, change is inevitable. If that is what you deem as force, well, the solution is, of course, jump ship. But, inevitable there as well. the cycle repeats itself. Release notes of sorts can be found at the wonderful resource called Applevis. How long have you been using OS X? I am still learning this system but it sure outruns Windows. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> On 9/15/2016 6:03 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:It seems counterproductive to force an up-to-date, streamlined functionality, such as iOS to emulate an older, difficult, clumsy system, namely OS. If I'm not mistaken, there are more users of the iOS than the OS. The iOS represents a gateway experience that the public has readily adopted. Among the public are large numbers of blind and disabled users. If this new mail modality represents Apple's future for iOS, I am going to be forced into seeking another phone and notebook alternative. This mail issue mushroomed, full-blown, from an update promised to improve, to make simpler, to add features. My experience has unfortunately invited an opposite opinion. No release notes guided usage; it was just changed, just done and just not helpful or easily usable. It feels as though there is a tug-of-war between some who learned on that clumsy, multi-step, multi-keyboard usage system and those using the iOs. It is my opinion that the older, less easy OS needs to give place to the more modern, more intuitive, more usable iOs and not the other way round. Each update adds extra complications to iOS in the name of improvements. There are a cadre of blind and sighted who, like the old friends at rehab, insist on speaking for us, the user/consumer blind, for our own good. I recommend that all of us speak up in our own best interest or risk losing something that could and did change the world for us. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:27, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:Correct, the way messages are handled has changed. Visually, it now looks much more like mail on the mac. It also works more like macmail. When in the main message list, individual messages are still handled the same as in iOS 9. Threads are different. If one double-taps on a thread to activate it, one goes into a browse thread view. In this view, single-finger vertical flick moves up and down through the messages. Single-finger horrizontal flicks read through the specific message. Double-tap on the delete button at the bottom of the screen deletes all messages in the thread. Three-finger horrizontal flick moves between threads, threads and individual messages which do not belong to threads, and individual messages. In other words, the same as single-finger horrizontal flick in the message list screen. If one wishes to delete only some messages from a thread, the thread must be expanded. Whilst in the main message screen, single-finger vertical flick to expand thread and double-tap. Now, the thread is unpacked and all the messages in the thread are treated like non-thread messages. Now that I have become used to this new system, I really like it. It took me a few hours of frustration to become used to this new system. I am hoping that, as Apple continues merging the behaviours of apps for iOS and Mac, that we will see a full Mac-based iPad. I love touch-screen and want my touch-screen Mac, or the equivalent. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 16/09/2016, at 10:09, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com <mailto:philh...@gmail.com> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:message threading seems to have changed substantially in IOS10. I can no longer 3 finger flick from message to message in a thread, instead I have to use the “pre and next” message buttons. 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