HI Chris,

You mean the iPad range unless there is a force touch iPad screan now.

As you said iPods etc.

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On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, 17 September 2016 2:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
don't support 3D touch?

Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
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From: Ray Foret jr<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search for 
“grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come up 
except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only showed 
me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double tapped on the 
“view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the experience I had 
just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two things.

1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and therefore 
it is impossible for me to interact with it.

2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, I am 
forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we are 
supposed to find stuff now.

Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I could, 
of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to me like 
that’s what’s happened.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!!

On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of that, 
the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app store, 
ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not aware of 
totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having some issues 
earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's improved.  If not 
though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It was kind of acting like 
it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, when I tried downloading 
the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a taken about 2 minutes, if even 
that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... something's definitely up, but thats 
really the best guess I can come up with.
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From: David Chittenden<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, and an 
iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the display. I then 
double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query using the onscreen 
keyboard and the search button is in the lower right corner. Or, I use braille 
screen input and swipe right with two fingers to activate search. In both 
cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right before writing this message.

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Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler 
<brianfisch...@me.com<mailto:brianfisch...@me.com>> wrote:
I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and IOS 10, 
not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in the 
search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not read the results 
just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a pretty serious 
issue.
On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. 
<ancient.ali...@icloud.com<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

  What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been located.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
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On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I
only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.
If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then
flick back up to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try
using Siri to dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I
manually type my query in, it'll then type in the box, but the search
button isn't showing at the bottom of the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as
I put my finger in the bottom right quadrant of the screen to tap
search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and I land on the update tab
instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my finger up a little bit.
Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app store, and how it
works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond a doubt.

Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely
doing it correctly.

The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you
I dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results. The key
word I searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not
that I was gonna download it was, Pokimon Go.  No results came up after
doing the search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search
field, it wouldn't clear out what I typed.

I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my
wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset
the phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a
backup.  I don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start
over clean.

It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the
mac is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with
command+Shift+H in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I
try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then
VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!

Is anyone else seeing this stuff?

Chris.

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