Thanks David for all the helpful commands.
I’d been doing that with send.
Looks like I’m doing pretty well with this.

Peace,          
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
                                
mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:31 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The following gestures work in in braille screen input,any orientation, any 
> mode, all devices.
> 
> Space - single finger flick right
> Backspace - single finger flick left
> 
> Enter/search/go/return - two-finger flick right
> 
> delete word - two-finger klick left
> Spellcheck (cycle between suggestions - single-finger vertical flick (either 
> up or down)
> Change between available input modes (6 dot, contracted, eight dot (iPad 
> only)) - three-finger horrizontal flick
> 
> Lock orientation (screen away or table-top mode) - three-finger vertical flick
> 
> As for finding send buttons, Etc., braille screen input is a keyboard entry 
> mode. If the search button or go button or return button does not appear on 
> the onscreen keyboard, two-finger right flick will not activate them. In this 
> case, turn the rotor away from braille screen input. Then use standard 
> commands to locate and double-tap the button.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 18/09/2016, at 11:06, Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net 
> <mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
> 
>> David,
>> I've been using braille screen input for quite a whileddI use screen away 
>> mode.
>> If I'm writing a message, how do I rather, what I've writen? If it's a text 
>> message, how do I find the send button?
>> Stacey and GEB dog Kirk.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David Chittenden  <dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: Saturday, September 17, 2016 4:59 pm
>> Subject: Re: Braille input with hands on an I phone podcast?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I use braille screen input all the time, for just about everything.
>>> 
>>> I started teaching myself when it first came out. Back then, I worked with 
>>> it every day, several times per day, and could not get it reliably or 
>>> consistently for about a week. In other words, as with everything else 
>>> which is new, be patient with yourself, accept you are going to get it 
>>> wrong, and keep trying.
>>> 
>>> Dot calibration is your friend. Dot calibration moves the centre of each 
>>> dot under the middle of the particular finqer. On the iPhone, it requires 
>>> between about a quarter second and half of a second between the right hand 
>>> and the left hand. If you try dot calibration and iOS gives you 4 5 6 l, 
>>> you are pausing too long between the two hands. If, on the other hand, it 
>>> gives any combination of symbols with 4 or 5 dots in it, you are tapping 
>>> too quick between your left and right hands.
>>> 
>>> Why should I do dot calibration? It seems unfair. Well, you are blind. This 
>>> means, it is virtually impossible for you to put your fingers in the same 
>>> spots on the iDevice. As for how unfair it is, get over yourself. I perform 
>>> dot calibration every time I start writing. It takes about half a second, 
>>> and my writing is excellent, every time. Note: on the iPad, dot calibration 
>>> is different. for that device, tap with all 6 or 8 fingers (depending on 
>>> which braille input you are using. The first tap is followed by a second 
>>> tap which is within 1/4 to 1/2 second.
>>> 
>>> Brailling feels strange on the iPhone. It is different because one is not 
>>> touching the keys all the time. So, one's fingers tend to drift, which 
>>> eventually causes one to press incorrect dots with one or more fingers. At 
>>> this point, dot calibration is your friend again. It will realign the dots 
>>> to your fingers. Again, you are blind, so cannot realign your fingers to 
>>> the visible dots on the screen, so get over yourself.
>>> 
>>> I prefer away mode. I find that it is easier to keep my fingers in the same 
>>> positions on the screen when I am holding the iPhone with my thumbs on one 
>>> edge and my pinkys on the other edge. With the iPad, either mode works for 
>>> me. That said, When using the iPad in table-top mode, I touch the bottom 
>>> edge of the iPad with both thumbs to keep my fingers in the same locations 
>>> on the screen.
>>> 
>>> Listen to what VO is saying about what is being typed. This will help you 
>>> to understand what you are doing wrong. Braille Screen Input is as stable 
>>> as performing VO gestures, so you are the one making the errors. again, get 
>>> over yourself and build your skills. It is an excellent method of data 
>>> entry which does not require any other equipment, so can be used on the fly 
>>> / at a second's notice. And, one does not need to be concerned with 
>>> charging or pairing keyboards; not to mention the need to find an available 
>>> surface to write on.
>>> 
>>> Now, whilst learning, if you continue making the same errors, write down 
>>> what VO keeps saying you are intering, and I will attempt to figure out 
>>> what you are doing wrong. Please work in 6 dot braille during this process. 
>>> Contracted braille adds another layer of complexity as I would need to try 
>>> to figure out which contractions you are using to figure out what you are 
>>> doing with your fingers. Also, please state whether using table-top or away 
>>> mode, and your device.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSCbi'c, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 18/09/2016, at 09:12, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com 
>>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> 
>>>> This sounds very much like the problem I was first having when I tried it 
>>>> out this morning. However when I went back in and tried it a second time 
>>>> the problem seem to have corrected it self. I haven't spent a lot of time 
>>>> with it today but I have tried subsequently several times to use braille 
>>>> input and it worked every time.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> To anyone who can't get BSI to work: are you all having the same problem, 
>>>>> where dots appear completely out of order or are missing altogether? I 
>>>>> saw that briefly during one of the iOS8 incremental update betas, but 
>>>>> never since. I don't recall what worked, save several calibrations in a 
>>>>> row, done very fast. Failing that, has anyone tried a complete settings 
>>>>> reset? It's a bit drastic, I know, but it won't touch any of your data or 
>>>>> apps and will mean only that you have to take ten minutes and set up all 
>>>>> your settings again. This includes time, mail fetch, notifications, and 
>>>>> so on. Critically, it also includes all accessibility. Possibly this will 
>>>>> make things work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, if you have a friend who ininhas* gotten this to work, have you 
>>>>> borrowed their device? This way, you can tell for sure if it's your own 
>>>>> iOS device doing something wrong, or yourself not quite understanding 
>>>>> something fully.
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 15:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I heard that podcast, and you did an excellent job with it.  I still 
>>>>>> however to this very day cannot get it to work regardless how closely I 
>>>>>> follow the tips you provided, and honestly, about 4 of my other friends 
>>>>>> can't seem to get it either.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Christopher Gilland
>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Alex Hall
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:37 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Braille input with hands on an I phone podcast?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't have a link handy, but I did one a year or two ago that will 
>>>>>>> still be relevant. You can find it on Applevis; I'd search for "mehgcap 
>>>>>>> braille screen input" which should find you my podcast and guide. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 08:48, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please could someone do a podcast on how to use Braille output on 
>>>>>>>> their I phone please?  I don't know how to use it but heard all of 
>>>>>>>> Jonathan's podcast today when he was unboxing his I phone 7 plus and 
>>>>>>>> he was so fast on Braille output.  I'd like to use it but the dots are 
>>>>>>>> not in the same place as I don't know how to calibrate the dots and 
>>>>>>>> can you chord i.e. do all the six finger combinations as you do on a 
>>>>>>>> perkins?  Does Android have this method?  Just curious.  Never used 
>>>>>>>> Android as when I heard it a long time ago, didn't like the voices.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>>>> I'm fundraising for RNIB.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin 
>>>>>>>> Money Giving page. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please visit 
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>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I use braille screen input all the time, for just about everything.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I started teaching myself when it first came out. Back then, I worked with 
>>> it every day, several times per day, and could not get it reliably or 
>>> consistently for about a week. In other words, as with everything else 
>>> which is new, be patient with yourself, accept you are going to get it 
>>> wrong, and keep trying.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dot calibration is your friend. Dot calibration moves the centre of each 
>>> dot under the middle of the particular finqer. On the iPhone, it requires 
>>> between about a quarter second and half of a second between the right hand 
>>> and the left hand. If you try dot calibration and iOS gives you 4 5 6 l, 
>>> you are pausing too long between the two hands. If, on the other hand, it 
>>> gives any combination of symbols with 4 or 5 dots in it, you are tapping 
>>> too quick between your left and right hands.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why should I do dot calibration? It seems unfair. Well, you are blind. This 
>>> means, it is virtually impossible for you to put your fingers in the same 
>>> spots on the iDevice. As for how unfair it is, get over yourself.. I 
>>> perform dot calibration every time I start writing. It takes about half a 
>>> second, and my writing is excellent, every time. Note: on the iPad, dot 
>>> calibration is different. for that device, tap with all 6 or 8 fingers 
>>> (depending on which braille input you are using. The first tap is followed 
>>> by a second tap which is within 1/4 to 1/2 second.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brailling feels strange on the iPhone. It is different because one is not 
>>> touching the keys all the time. So, one's fingers tend to drift, which 
>>> eventually causes one to press incorrect dots with one or more fingers. At 
>>> this point, dot calibration is your friend again. It will realign the dots 
>>> to your fingers. Again, you are blind, so cannot realign your fingers to 
>>> the visible dots on the screen, so get over yourself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I prefer away mode. I find that it is easier to keep my fingers in the same 
>>> positions on the screen when I am holding the iPhone with my thumbs on one 
>>> edge and my pinkys on the other edge. With the iPad, either mode works for 
>>> me. That said, When using the iPad in table-top mode, I touch the bottom 
>>> edge of the iPad with both thumbs to keep my fingers in the same locations 
>>> on the screen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Listen to what VO is saying about what is being typed. This will help you 
>>> to understand what you are doing wrong. Braille Screen Input is as stable 
>>> as performing VO gestures, so you are the one making the errors. again, get 
>>> over yourself and build your skills. It is an excellent method of data 
>>> entry which does not require any other equipment, so can be used on the fly 
>>> / at a second's notice. And, one does not need to be concerned with 
>>> charging or pairing keyboards; not to mention the need to find an available 
>>> surface to write on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now, whilst learning, if you continue making the same errors, write down 
>>> what VO keeps saying you are intering, and I will attempt to figure out 
>>> what you are doing wrong. Please work in 6 dot braille during this process. 
>>> Contracted braille adds another layer of complexity as I would need to try 
>>> to figure out which contractions you are using to figure out what you are 
>>> doing with your fingers. Also, please state whether using table-top or away 
>>> mode, and your device.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSCbi'c, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 18/09/2016, at 09:12, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com 
>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> This sounds very much like the problem I was first having when I tried it 
>>> out this morning. However when I went back in and tried it a second time 
>>> the problem seem to have corrected it self. I haven't spent a lot of time 
>>> with it today but I have tried subsequently several times to use braille 
>>> input and it worked every time.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To anyone who can't get BSI to work: are you all having the same problem, 
>>> where dots appear completely out of order or are missing altogether? I saw 
>>> that briefly during one of the iOS8 incremental update betas, but never 
>>> since. I don't recall what worked, save several calibrations in a row, done 
>>> very fast. Failing that, has anyone tried a complete settings reset? It's a 
>>> bit drastic, I know, but it won't touch any of your data or apps and will 
>>> mean only that you have to take ten minutes and set up all your settings 
>>> again. This includes time, mail fetch, notifications, and so on. 
>>> Critically, it also includes all accessibility. Possibly this will make 
>>> things work?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Finally, if you have a friend who ininhas* gotten this to work, have you 
>>> borrowed their device? This way, you can tell for sure if it's your own iOS 
>>> device doing something wrong, or yourself not quite understanding something 
>>> fully.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 15:46, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I heard that podcast, and you did an excellent job with it.  I still 
>>> however to this very day cannot get it to work regardless how closely I 
>>> follow the tips you provided, and honestly, about 4 of my other friends 
>>> can't seem to get it either.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Alex Hall 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Braille input with hands on an I phone podcast?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't have a link handy, but I did one a year or two ago that will still 
>>> be relevant. You can find it on Applevis; I'd search for "mehgcap braille 
>>> screen input" which should find you my podcast and guide. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 08:48, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com 
>>> <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please could someone do a podcast on how to use Braille output on their I 
>>> phone please?  I don't know how to use it but heard all of Jonathan's 
>>> podcast today when he was unboxing his I phone 7 plus and he was so fast on 
>>> Braille output.  I'd like to use it but the dots are not in the same place 
>>> as I don't know how to calibrate the dots and can you chord i.e. do all the 
>>> six finger combinations as you do on a perkins?  Does Android have this 
>>> method?  Just curious.  Never used Android as when I heard it a long time 
>>> ago, didn't like the voices. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> I'm fundraising for RNIB.
>>> 
>>> Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money 
>>> Giving page. 
>>> 
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>>> <http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RNIBiceland> where you can also 
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