Here is a thought. Worst case scenario. Both Mac and iDevices unavailable for any number of reasons. Add to the mix the same thing for local backup devices. So even if one uses the cloud, how will you access it? Assuming again, worst case scenario, you do not know the password.

   Is there such a thing as a failsafe system? Food for thought.

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On 9/18/2016 6:31 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
Good point on the passwords Alex, local backup has it’s advantages and
cloud isn’t a bad second.  Great point!

On Sep 18, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com
<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:

I'd also suggest iTunes, and encrypting your backup. This brings over
health data, wifi passwords, Twitter/Facebook logins, and most logins
on third-party apps. None of this is backed up in iCloud, and
restoring locally is much faster. Not having looked into it I don't
know, but I doubt whether non-Apple solutions can back up this
encrypted data either. iTunes is really easy to use for this purpose;
I've done it several times recently, and it works just fine, no
accessibility problems to worry about.
On Sep 18, 2016, at 20:29, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net
<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I might run in to a situation where for some reason, I have stuff on
my iPHone that I might lose on my Mac and therefore need to do the
transfer.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!!

On Sep 18, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Why don't you want to back up with ICloud, or with ITunes?  Just am
curious?
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Subject: slightly annoied and need suggestons for possible solution


Okay,

In preparation for my soon coming iPHone7+, I just backed up my
iPhone 6+ to both my Mac and iCloud.

Now, What I would really love is a good third party solution which
would let me back all my data from my iPHone6+ directly to my Mac
independantly of iTunes.  The frustration comes in the fact that I
have so far paid for three possible solutions:  Anytrans,
Wondertuens and one other I cannot recall. When I paid for each,
they appeared to me to be quite accessible:  but in time, and with
the latest update of Anytrans, the accessibility seems to be broken
every time with each solution.  Can anybody suggest anything which
might be usable for the purpose and which is at least very or
reasonably accessible?

Thanks.


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blind built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!!

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