I see the problem now. The version on the app store is a year old. No wonder. The app on the Amazon site was just updated last month.

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On 10/10/2016 2:08 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Hello,

Interact with your book list and you should be able to VO through your books. 
VO + space on one. Then look at the status on the file menu. If you’ve opened 
your book VO will tell you that it is greyed. If not select it from the menu. 
If you look at the menu again you will see below the open option is close book.

Your books will be in ~/Library/Application Support/Kindle/My Kindle Content.

You did download the kindle app from Amazon as advised?

Regards,

Gena
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Gena,
  I'm sorry I decided to tackle this one. (smiles) After a struggle I got the 
registration done. But I cannot be sure I actually have my book on the Mac. The 
only part of the Kindle app that speaks is the toolbar and title bar.

  I think you stated where the Kindle content is in the library folder but I am 
unable to find my books. Once I find that I will try running the other two apps.

  We need to light a bonfire under Amazon.

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On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
Handling Kindle Books On The Mac

This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law. Users
must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It is not
for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.

Download the following:
Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
set to amazon.co.uk <http://amazon.co.uk>. This setting is difficult to
change so download from your country to save you the bother.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110

From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which forced the
authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the dialog
box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
been successful because it will present the opening screen which you can
VO arrow left and right.

Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m sure
this is the right one.

http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download

This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.

Now download Calibre:
https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:

/Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert

Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something like:

ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf

Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf

Here’s the help file:

Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]

Convert an ebook from one format to another.

input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
specified as the first two arguments to the command.

The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the filenames
must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.

After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
input and output file and then use the -h option.

For full documentation of the conversion system see
https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html

Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them,
enclose the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path with
spaces"

Options:
 --version       show program's version number and exit

 -h, --help      show this help message and exit

 --list-recipes  List builtin recipe names. You can create an ebook from a
                 builtin recipe like this: ebook-convert "Recipe
Name.recipe"
                 output.epub


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On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com
<mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire
collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my
mac.  2. I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open
them with command O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and
either method does not work.  What am I doing wrong here?
On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk
<mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:

Hello,

Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped
file in a subdirectory of your documents folder.

~/Documents/Ebook Converter/

As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation
of the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your
app to your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it
using VO keys. By interacting with the book list you can open a book
by cmd + o, then closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the
HD. You can see the commands on the pull down menus. I need to press
return sometimes to get the focus on the book I want to open.

As I said, it’s clunky!

Gena


On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com
<mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com
<http://www.ebook-converter.com/> it can strip drm AND convert the
kindle ebook to word or html.
For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle
htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I
have somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books
FROM the lcoud TO the mac…
Greetings, Anouk,
On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com
<mailto:sandi1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
program, however, do you have a  url for that ?

On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk
<mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
Hello David etc.

It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder
for myself
than necessary.

1. Buy a book from Amazon
2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is
pulled
down on to the Mac’s HD.
3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s
DRM.
4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to
generate
whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able
to search
so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl

That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that
offers a free
demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.

Regards,


Gena

On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com
<mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book
reading using
the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug
in as
available on Windows.


I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to
make the
Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions
here as
well.


David Griffith


MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:

On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to
convert
Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a
program
like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read
Kindle
books with VoiceOver?

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