Hello E.T.

I orientate myself to the keyboard, so could you send details of the process of 
converting books, as you suggest? There’s a DRM plugin for calibre so that 
would simplify the whole process for everyone.

Regards,

Gena

> On 13 Oct 2016, at 19:15, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Sad to say, no. Calibre worked fine on one title. I tried it on the other 
> one and it says its a DRM protected file. Will dig into this some more.
> 
>   By the way the version of Calibre I ran does not need Terminal. I do need 
> to go tweak the settings to format the txt file though.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/13/2016 8:34 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello E.t.
>> 
>> Out of interest have you tried running ebook-convert on the file? Some
>> may not have DRM applied.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Oct 2016, at 23:48, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gena,
>>>  I may need to delete the one title that refuses to work and then try
>>> it again.
>>> 
>>>  I installed the older version of the removal tool which matches your
>>> steps. Same result though.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> 
>>> On 10/12/2016 1:50 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t remember running into the kindle wizard myself. What are the
>>>> steps you take to run the kindle wizard? Then don’t do those steps again.
>>>> 
>>>> I did give an example of a kindle extension. So anything looking like
>>>> .azw is the file you need to point to. I have seen .mobi and .html files
>>>> too.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> 
>>>> Gena
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12 Oct 2016, at 17:39, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another update on this process...
>>>>> 
>>>>> The removal tool is a bit illogical and has unlabeled buttons but
>>>>> once those 3 are labeled, its not too bad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adding file is a typical process. Once I learned that the .azw file
>>>>> is the file to work with, it was simple enough to select that and
>>>>> convert it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I am running into is the Kindle wizard. It should not be
>>>>> popping up since I bought only 2 books so far, directly from Amazon.
>>>>> The wizard deals with content that comes from other sources so should
>>>>> not apply. I cannot do the 2nd book. When I retyrn to the app, the
>>>>> status for the 2nd book shows "information is incoeect". Dismissing
>>>>> the wizard gets me nowhere.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can open and close either book in the Kindle for Mac app and both
>>>>> are in the library folder. Will keep working on this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/8/2016 11:12 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>> Handling Kindle Books On The Mac
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This guide is not designed to assist the braking of copyright law.
>>>>>> Users
>>>>>> must take responsibility for their own actions and conscience. It
>>>>>> is not
>>>>>> for the faint hearterd either. Difficulty = medium to hard.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Download the following:
>>>>>> Kindle for Mac (This is for the UK store) So by default, the store is
>>>>>> set to amazon.co.uk <http://amazon.co.uk/> <http://amazon.co.uk/>
>>>>>> <http://amazon.co.uk <http://amazon.co.uk/>
>>>>>> <http://amazon.co.uk/>>. This setting is difficult to
>>>>>> change so download from your country to save you the bother.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246110
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From memory, I tapped the tab key twice, then hit enter which
>>>>>> forced the
>>>>>> authorisation wizard to put the focus in the password field. Then I
>>>>>> typed in my password then hit enter. Do these steps very slowly. I have
>>>>>> a fast Mac but this wizard is very sluggish. Use VO B to read the
>>>>>> dialog
>>>>>> box. You’ll get very little speech out of it. You will know if you have
>>>>>> been successful because it will present the opening screen which
>>>>>> you can
>>>>>> VO arrow left and right.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then download Kindle DRM Removal. This looks different site but I’m
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> this is the right one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://kindle-drm-removal-mac.en.softonic.com/mac/download
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This will find the Kindle books that have been pulled down on to the
>>>>>> Mac. It will create it’s own directory to store DRM removed files. I
>>>>>> find the selection of books frustrating . You need to interact with the
>>>>>> toolbar and click on the open files button. Which brings up a typical
>>>>>> finder window and it’s difficult to know which book is which.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now download Calibre:
>>>>>> https://calibre-ebook.com/download_osx
>>>>>> For this you might want to manipulate the path variable. As the command
>>>>>> line tools are hidden in your Applications directory. Mine is:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /Applications/calibre.app/Contents/MacOS/ebook-convert
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don’t forget auto tab completion. So on the command line something
>>>>>> like:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ebook-convert My_Recipe_Book.azw3 .rtf
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Will generate My_Recipe_Book.rtf
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here’s the help file:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Usage: ebook-convert input_file output_file [options]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Convert an ebook from one format to another.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> input_file is the input and output_file is the output. Both must be
>>>>>> specified as the first two arguments to the command.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The output ebook format is guessed from the file extension of
>>>>>> output_file. output_file can also be of the special format .EXT where
>>>>>> EXT is the output file extension. In this case, the name of the output
>>>>>> file is derived from the name of the input file. Note that the
>>>>>> filenames
>>>>>> must not start with a hyphen. Finally, if output_file has no extension,
>>>>>> then it is treated as a directory and an "open ebook" (OEB) consisting
>>>>>> of HTML files is written to that directory. These files are the files
>>>>>> that would normally have been passed to the output plugin.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> After specifying the input and output file you can customize the
>>>>>> conversion by specifying various options. The available options depend
>>>>>> on the input and output file types. To get help on them specify the
>>>>>> input and output file and then use the -h option.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For full documentation of the conversion system see
>>>>>> https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/conversion.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Whenever you pass arguments to ebook-convert that have spaces in them,
>>>>>> enclose the arguments in quotation marks. For example "C:\some path
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> spaces"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Options:
>>>>>> --version       show program's version number and exit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -h, --help      show this help message and exit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --list-recipes  List builtin recipe names. You can create an ebook
>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>                builtin recipe like this: ebook-convert "Recipe
>>>>>> Name.recipe"
>>>>>>                output.epub
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Created by Kovid Goyal <ko...@kovidgoyal.net
>>>>>> <mailto:ko...@kovidgoyal.net>
>>>>>> <mailto:ko...@kovidgoyal.net><mailto:ko...@kovidgoyal.net>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 8 Oct 2016, at 01:56, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>
>>>>>>> <mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>
>>>>>>> <mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Okay, I downloaded the kindle app, and I think I downloaded my entire
>>>>>>> collection.  1. I can’t find the kindle book library nowhere on my
>>>>>>> mac.  2. I can not navigate books in the kindle app, let alone open
>>>>>>> them with command O.  I have tried with quick nav on and off, and
>>>>>>> either method does not work.  What am I doing wrong here?
>>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk
>>>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes that’s the tool I use. It removes the DRM and puts the stripped
>>>>>>>> file in a subdirectory of your documents folder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ~/Documents/Ebook Converter/
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As for opening your kindle book. Kindle for Mac does allow navigation
>>>>>>>> of the library using VoiceOver. The hardest part is to register your
>>>>>>>> app to your account. But once you’ve done that you can navigate it
>>>>>>>> using VO keys. By interacting with the book list you can open a book
>>>>>>>> by cmd + o, then closing it by cmd + w. Which pulls it down to the
>>>>>>>> HD. You can see the commands on the pull down menus. I need to press
>>>>>>>> return sometimes to get the focus on the book I want to open.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As I said, it’s clunky!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:34, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Sandi, I think i found the right tool www.ebook-converter.com
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ebook-converter.com/>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ebook-converter.com/>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.ebook-converter.com/> it can strip drm AND convert the
>>>>>>>>> kindle ebook to word or html.
>>>>>>>>> For me still the problem remains how to get the books out of kindle
>>>>>>>>> htough? Because the app seems wholly inaccessible with voiceover. I
>>>>>>>>> have somehow been able to login but how to get all the kindle books
>>>>>>>>> FROM the lcoud TO the mac…
>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:25, Sandi Jazmin Kruse
>>>>>>>>>> <sandi1...@gmail.com <mailto:sandi1...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sandi1...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sandi1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> that is how i would do it as well, did not know about the remover
>>>>>>>>>> program, however, do you have a  url for that ?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/6/16, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello David etc.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It’s a very clunky experience and I’m probably making it harder
>>>>>>>>>>> for myself
>>>>>>>>>>> than necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Buy a book from Amazon
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Open Kindle for Mac and press enter on my new purchase so it is
>>>>>>>>>>> pulled
>>>>>>>>>>> down on to the Mac’s HD.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Open Kindle DRM removal and select the new book and remove it’s
>>>>>>>>>>> DRM.
>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Then from the terminal use the calibre ebook-convert command to
>>>>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>>>> whatever format I require. For my recipe books I like to be able
>>>>>>>>>>> to search
>>>>>>>>>>> so I convert to plain text. Others I use epubl
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That’s it in a nutshell. The DRM removal tool is an app that
>>>>>>>>>>> offers a free
>>>>>>>>>>> demo period but then a licence has to be purchased.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 08:26, David Griffith
>>>>>>>>>>>> <daj.griff...@gmail.com <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The last time I tried I could get no Voiceover output book
>>>>>>>>>>>> reading using
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Kindle app and there appeared no MacOS Accessibility TTS plug
>>>>>>>>>>>> in as
>>>>>>>>>>>> available on Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe some people use Calibre via command line interface to
>>>>>>>>>>>> make the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle books accessible. I would welcome step by sep instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>> here as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Griffith
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> MOn 06/10/2016 01:12, Ryan Mann wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the PC, there is a program called Codex that can be used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convert
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle books to other formats such as Word or HTML.  Is there a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like this for Mac OS?  If not, is there at least a way to read
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle
>>>>>>>>>>>>> books with VoiceOver?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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