Hi Mary,

I can’t say I’mm really a fan boy of Google for most of their products,

However as I’m some what looking for a new tv currently I’m starting to change 
my mind.

I’ve never really been a fan of Sony but the new Sony Android tvs  I’m realy 
changing my mind,

Playing around with the Sony 8500 TV today
Talkback allowed us to work through menus and channels / input sources as well 
as the multiple menu levels with speech enabled Sony and Google have in these 
tv’s given us the sightless more of an ability to control the tv without 
sighted assistance.

As for google docks and chrome vox,

  This is surely just a start for Google and with time they will make the g 
suite usable with voiceover or even jaws / widnow eyes.

Google are doing some good thigns,

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2016 7:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Google docs, etc., on mac with voiceover

There is no cost. And I can't talk about how good it is or isn't. Frankly, I 
resented chrome box from the beginning. Because I thought the Google should 
play along with the screen readers and not expect people to learn a specific 
Screenwitter just so they can access their stuff. I mean after all, we have 
lots of standards. Why did google have to do something weird and different? 
HTML is HTML. But not if your Google. So I have a bias against chrome box. But 
I can't speak to how good it is or is not. I think Google should've played with 
the standards that existed already in HTML and not expected blind people to 
learn a whole different system just because they can..
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 28, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
So how good is chrome vox?

And is there a cost to get access to it?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2016 7:22 AM
To: MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Using Google docs, etc., on mac with voiceover

I use and recommend ChromeVox on mac:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromevox/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn
It provides a lot better experience with G Suite.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 5:59 AM Kat DeNicola 
<waterwogs...@gmail.com<mailto:waterwogs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi. Haven't had time to do a topic search for this, so maybe it's already been 
addressed, but I'm having no luck using the help information from google on 
using docs with voiceover on the mac. I can't even find the edit field for the 
body of the document, just the field for giving it a title. Navigating to and 
activating a menu, or using the VO passthrough key and then the shortcut to 
activate a specific menu, yields inconsistent results. I made sure quicknav was 
off and that screen reader mode was enabled. What am I missing? Or is it 
actually just a mess anyway?
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