Hey Simon, It's kind of annoying that so many developers, especially web-site developers, "optimized" their sites for use with IE, thus alienating many other users. I'm thinking that this practice is possibly waning with the increased use of the Mac and the growth of Chrome as well.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 29, 2016, at 14:46, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: Hi Tim, I can honestly say that IE doesn’t work nicely with most things. Using widnows and IE everyday it really worries me that MS can’t put together a decent browser or is it developers can’t develop decent web applications Gotta wonder. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Friday, 30 December 2016 4:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using Google docs, etc., on mac with voiceover Hi, When using Google Docs with screen readers on the Windows side, are you using IE or a different browser. As far as I recall, IE and Google didn't play well together at all. Of course, this may have changed since I've not bothered keeping up with much to that subject in the Windows world. I only touch Windows about once a month or so to work within the Active Directory or to assist someone else, so I'm certainly not much in the loop. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 29, 2016, at 08:49, Chris G <jedikent@mysticaccess.email <mailto:jedikent@mysticaccess.email>> wrote: Hi, For what it is worth, Docs works fine with JAWS 17/18, Window-eyes 9.5 and NVDA (latest version). When I was playing with docs on the mac, I couldn't get VoiceOver to work at all. Arrowing through the document said "beginning of text" or "end of text." Sometimes it spoke each character twice. It was unusable. I tried VoiceOver in Chrome with the same results. Finally had to use ChromeVox in Chrome to work with Docs on the mac. Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. http://www.MysticAccess.com <http://www.mysticaccess.com/> Check out our eclectic and comprehensive assistive technology podcasts at: http://www.MysticAccessPodcast.com <http://www.mysticaccesspodcast.com/> Join our free announce-only mailing list to receive product news, podcast updates and exclusive coupon codes. Please send a blank email to: manews-subscribe@mysticaccess.email <mailto:manews-subscribe@mysticaccess.email> Contact: Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) Twitter: MysticAccess Facebook: mysticaccessempower -------- Original Message -------- From: Simon Fogarty Sent: Thursday, Dec 29, 2016 1:17 AM EST To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Using Google docs, etc., on mac with voiceover Hi Mary, I can’t say I’mm really a fan boy of Google for most of their products, However as I’m some what looking for a new tv currently I’m starting to change my mind. I’ve never really been a fan of Sony but the new Sony Android tvs I’m realy changing my mind, Playing around with the Sony 8500 TV today Talkback allowed us to work through menus and channels / input sources as well as the multiple menu levels with speech enabled Sony and Google have in these tv’s given us the sightless more of an ability to control the tv without sighted assistance. As for google docks and chrome vox, This is surely just a start for Google and with time they will make the g suite usable with voiceover or even jaws / widnow eyes. Google are doing some good thigns, *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mary Otten *Sent:* Thursday, 29 December 2016 7:11 PM *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: Using Google docs, etc., on mac with voiceover There is no cost. And I can't talk about how good it is or isn't. Frankly, I resented chrome box from the beginning. Because I thought the Google should play along with the screen readers and not expect people to learn a specific Screenwitter just so they can access their stuff. I mean after all, we have lots of standards. Why did google have to do something weird and different? HTML is HTML. But not if your Google. So I have a bias against chrome box. But I can't speak to how good it is or is not. I think Google should've played with the standards that existed already in HTML and not expected blind people to learn a whole different system just because they can.. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Dec 28, 2016, at 9:37 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>>> wrote: So how good is chrome vox? And is there a cost to get access to it? *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Chao *Sent:* Thursday, 29 December 2016 7:22 AM *To:* MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> *Subject:* Re: Using Google docs, etc., on mac with voiceover I use and recommend ChromeVox on mac: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromevox/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn <https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromevox/kgejglhpjiefppelpmljglcjbhoiplfn> It provides a lot better experience with G Suite. 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